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<p>[QUOTE="charley, post: 8210457, member: 5372"]You raise a very interesting subject. Before the other comments I make, a quick market check for the 08D in 64:</p><p>CPG= 2860 (up this month).</p><p>GREYSHEET (wholesale)= 2369 (up this month).</p><p>CAC - RCMR= 3690 (up this month).</p><p><br /></p><p>I chose 64 as a flag, not as commentary on your piece. I never grade from photos. I do note some feint coppering (a good thing-I am a SaintGuru guy...a mentor of mentors).</p><p><br /></p><p>With a 5-7X, the contact marks are nowhere near as obtrusive as the posted photo size suggests. I do not see any 1mm hits and I do not see any flow line disruption, and the luster is all there. I always try to remember what ANA used as a standard: a Mint State coin can not be lackluster, and an uncirculated coin without full luster can not grade higher than a 63. I do not detect any circulation wear or friction. The strike is average, but there are no ill defined details and the luster is unimpaired.</p><p><br /></p><p>Comparing your coin, I have seen a hell of a lot worse 65s, and none of them would CAC (and if they would have CAC'd they would already have).</p><p><br /></p><p>The bag marks/contact marks etc., that you mention, have always been an accepted anomaly with Gold, due to the "softness". It is not that CAC is declaring such hits as current market acceptable. CAC is very critical when it comes to Gold, and over the last several years has forced the TPGs to up their game in gold grading, and consumers are much more cognizant now, because $$$$$$!. It matters. CAC is DEFINITELY not grading in less than technical standards. If they were, the Market he makes- INCLUDING BUYING BACK WHAT BEANS- would not be reflected in the obvious $$ CACA preference.</p><p><br /></p><p>That is all I got. Remember, you invited my thoughts (which I rarely share because I don't want people hitting me).</p><p><br /></p><p>I am also old, so don't hit/kick/push me and cause me to topple and break a hip. Calling me names and making fun of me is OK, though.</p><p><br /></p><p>But, you know all this, so yes my opinion is submit it can't hurt.</p><p><br /></p><p>Truth in editing: removed an extra nonsensical 'with".[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="charley, post: 8210457, member: 5372"]You raise a very interesting subject. Before the other comments I make, a quick market check for the 08D in 64: CPG= 2860 (up this month). GREYSHEET (wholesale)= 2369 (up this month). CAC - RCMR= 3690 (up this month). I chose 64 as a flag, not as commentary on your piece. I never grade from photos. I do note some feint coppering (a good thing-I am a SaintGuru guy...a mentor of mentors). With a 5-7X, the contact marks are nowhere near as obtrusive as the posted photo size suggests. I do not see any 1mm hits and I do not see any flow line disruption, and the luster is all there. I always try to remember what ANA used as a standard: a Mint State coin can not be lackluster, and an uncirculated coin without full luster can not grade higher than a 63. I do not detect any circulation wear or friction. The strike is average, but there are no ill defined details and the luster is unimpaired. Comparing your coin, I have seen a hell of a lot worse 65s, and none of them would CAC (and if they would have CAC'd they would already have). The bag marks/contact marks etc., that you mention, have always been an accepted anomaly with Gold, due to the "softness". It is not that CAC is declaring such hits as current market acceptable. CAC is very critical when it comes to Gold, and over the last several years has forced the TPGs to up their game in gold grading, and consumers are much more cognizant now, because $$$$$$!. It matters. CAC is DEFINITELY not grading in less than technical standards. If they were, the Market he makes- INCLUDING BUYING BACK WHAT BEANS- would not be reflected in the obvious $$ CACA preference. That is all I got. Remember, you invited my thoughts (which I rarely share because I don't want people hitting me). I am also old, so don't hit/kick/push me and cause me to topple and break a hip. Calling me names and making fun of me is OK, though. But, you know all this, so yes my opinion is submit it can't hurt. Truth in editing: removed an extra nonsensical 'with".[/QUOTE]
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