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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;dougsmit, post: 1148058, member: 19463&quot;]SMKB is from the Sacred Mint (SM) in Cyzicus (K) from the second (B) shop.&nbsp; RIC even notes that my coin somes with wings spread and with wings &#039;down&#039; and every mint had their own minor style differences not to mention the fact that every die was an original carving (not hubbed) so differences abound.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&#039;Identical&#039; is a word with different meanings to different people.&nbsp; To non-collectors, any late Roman coin is identical in the sense that it is a small scrap of copper from a long time ago.&nbsp; To many collectors, all Constantinopolis commemoratives are identical and certainly owning one would be enough.&nbsp; The spreadsheet list of these coins offered online by a European student/collector shows over 190 minor variations including mints, workshops, placement of dots, changes of details (like wing position or helmet decorations) so a real specialist collection could have at least that many coins without two being &#039;identical&#039;.&nbsp; </p><p><a href="http://www.catbikes.ch/coinstuff/coins-ric.htm" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.catbikes.ch/coinstuff/coins-ric.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.catbikes.ch/coinstuff/coins-ric.htm</a></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Dane also published some pages beyond the lists on her favorite types including this one.&nbsp; She shows examples from all 13 mints that made the coins and offers the following information on the differences that can be found:</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Quote:</p><p>Compare details such as </p><ul> <li><u>Sceptre</u>: Position, length, angle, is the top end visible and if so does it extend beyond the wing, where is the lower end positioned ?</li> <li><u>Wings</u>: Size, angle and shape</li> <li><u>Shield</u>: Shape, height, upright or leaning left or right, distance from body</li> <li><u>Prow</u>: Height (if any), angle and pattern below it; the angle, shape and form of the prow&#039;s &quot;nose&quot;</li> <li><u>Victory&#039;s stance</u>: how is she standing? facing with head left ? really left (almost &quot;advancing left&quot;)? or just standing ? Angle of her knee ? Postition of her right leg ?</li> <li><u>Victory&#039;s arms</u>: Position and angle of arm and hand holding sceptre; Position and angle of arm whose hand is resting on the shield</li> <li><u>Victory&#039;s clothing</u>: Type, length and visibility of tunic (if any), length and &quot;sweep&quot; of skirt</li> </ul><p>End Quote</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><a href="http://www.catbikes.ch/helvetica/viconprow2.htm" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.catbikes.ch/helvetica/viconprow2.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.catbikes.ch/helvetica/viconprow2.htm</a></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>If you find that page interesting, you will be amazed by her collection of Falling Horsemen coins where a complete set would be over 2000 coins.&nbsp; I&#039;m not particularly into the Commemoratives and only have six of the mints but some of you may know that I am looking for a Trier mint Falling Horseman since that is the only mint I lack.&nbsp; Unlike Dane, I am not trying to get all 2000+ Horsemen.&nbsp; Why would anyone want all these &#039;identical&#039; coins?&nbsp; We collectors are a strange lot.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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