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Message:: [QUOTE="C-B-D, post: 1941723, member: 43130"]Several weeks ago I bought this NGC 1827 XF45 on eBay for $245. The reason I paid that much was because I recognized it as the overdate 1827/6. Upon getting it in-hand, I noticed that it had pretty severe artificial toning. (Don't let the seller's pics fool you. It was chalky, blue toned. Not dark and grey like the pics). I was at a loss what to do since I didn't feel like joining NGC just to send it back in to have the overdate added. So I cracked it out.[ATTACH=full]337135[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]337136[/ATTACH] Seeing it out of it's holder, the artificial toning looked even more pronounced, but I couldn't see hairlines from cleaning underneath. I really think someone just decided to try and add some color to it. So I used some heavily watered down dip and lightly touched it to the surfaces, attempting to remove the fake tone. It took a while, and I was in no hurry. When I was finished I thought to myself, "Well, now it's going to come back as cleaned." I was disgusted... I had an order to send to PCGS, so I threw it in fully expecting to get a "cleaned" or "questionable toning" designation, since I left on a little of the tone. I really didn't know what to do with it. Here's the result. PCGS upgraded it to an AU50. [ATTACH=full]337137[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]337138[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]337139[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]337140[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]