"I think I'm becoming a god!"

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Jay GT4, May 3, 2019.

  1. Jay GT4

    Jay GT4 Well-Known Member

    My latest addition comes via a coin show today. I almost left with nothing until I turned back for one more look. In the very last tray the divine was revealed...

    A very rare Vespasian dupondius struck by his son and successor Titus. Although the issue is undated, it was likely minted in 80-81 AD after Vespasian was deified. Thus, Vespasian's words came true...he was turned into a god.

    The coin is rated R2 in RIC and I was only able to find one on Coinarchives Pro. None in Acsearch or Vcoins. Beautiful smooth glossy green patina in hand.

    http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-155017

    DivusDupondius.jpg

    DIVVS AVGVSTVS VESPASIANVS
    Radiate head right

    PAX AVGVST
    Pax standing left, leaning on column, with caduceus and branch; SC in field

    Rome 80-81 AD

    12.18g

    RIC 377 (R2) Titus; very rare.

    Ex-ANE

    Let's see your Divus coins, of Vespasian or anyone else.
     
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  3. CoinBlazer

    CoinBlazer Numismatic Enthusiast

    PAX AVGVST means peaceful Augustus right?
    Claiming that his is a peaceful emperor?
     
  4. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    Very nice score, Jay.

    Vespasian - Divus Double Capricorn Neussel 2574.jpg DIVUS VESPASIAN
    AR Denarius. 3.06g, 19mm. Rome mint, struck under Titus, AD 80-81. RIC II 357 (Titus); RSC 497. O: DIVVS AVGVSTVS VESPASIANVS, laureate head right. R: Two capricorns back to back, supporting shield inscribed S C set on globe.
    Ex Dr Walter Neussel Collection
     
  5. Parthicus

    Parthicus Well-Known Member

    My capricorn denarius of Divus Vespasian is not as nice as @zumbly's example, so instead here's one featuring a tensa (a specially decorated chariot featuring emblems of the divine emperor).
    Vespasian posthumous.jpg
     
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  6. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Usually the reverses when spelled out have Augusti in genitive. I would translate that as Peace of the Augustus and interpret it as a wish for peace rather than a claim that he was peaceful. After the turmoil of 68-69 and the Jewish war, the Flavians were interested in restoring peace to the Empire and issued coins with Pax.
     
  7. Andres2

    Andres2 Well-Known Member

    Congrats Jay. Here's my Vespa Pax issued when he was still alive:

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  8. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

  9. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    Superb rarity Jay! Congrats!

    This isn't quite what you requested, but I really like this mule with an obverse of Titus and a reverse struck for Divus Vespasian.

    T368.jpg Titus Mule
    AR Denarius, 3.30g
    Rome mint, 79-80 AD
    RIC 368 (R3). BMC - . RSC - .
    Obv: IMP TITVS CAES VESPASIAN AVG P M; Head of Titus, laureate, bearded, l.
    Rev: EX S C across field; Victory adv. l., placing shield on trophy; below, Judaea std. l.
     
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  10. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper

    Vespasian may be famous for saying "I think I am becoming a God", but he is better known for another saying ...

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  11. Jay GT4

    Jay GT4 Well-Known Member

    Nice coins everyone. I've always liked the capricorns and @lordmarcovan @zumbly those coins are gorgeous! And a cool mule David. @Andres2 that is lovely!

    Here's a few more from the series...
    Vespasian_Quadriga.jpg
    DIVVS AVGVSTVS VESPASIANVS
    Laureate head of Divus Vespasian to right.

    EX S C
    Empty quadriga advancing left, ornamented with a miniature quadriga flanked by Victories at the top and two standing figures on the side.

    Rome, 80-1 AD
    3.24g

    RIC II 361 (C),(Titus); BMCRE 119 (Titus); RSC 146


    DivusVespasian.jpg
    DIVVS AVGVSTVS VESPASIANVS
    laureate head of Vespasian right

    SC on circular shield supported by two capricorns back to back, globe below

    Rome 80 AD

    RIC 357 (C2);Sear 2569

    19mm 3.4g
     
  12. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    My other Divus Vespasian has the tensa going right.

    Vespasian - Den Divus Tensa Right 395.jpg DIVUS VESPASIAN
    AR Denarius. 3.23g, 17.6mm. Rome mint, AD 79-80. RIC Titus 362 (R2); Sear 2566. O: DIVVS VESPASIANVS AVGVSTVS, laureate head right. R: Ornate tensa drawn by four horses right, surmounted by two Victories; EX S C in exergue.
     
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  13. Clavdivs

    Clavdivs Well-Known Member

    Very nice Jay..Here is my Vespasian Pax sestertius... a well used coin but a hefty piece that I handle quite often.

    VespasianMERGE.jpg

    Vespasian, 69 - 79 AD
    AE Sestertius, Rome Mint, 32mm, 22.83 grams
    Obverse: IMP CAES VESPASIAN AVG P M TR P P P COS VII, Laureate head of Vespasian left.
    Reverse: PAX AVGVSTI S C, Pax standing left holding branch and cornucopia.
    RIC881
     
  14. harley bissell

    harley bissell Well-Known Member

    To be a god you need followers and worshipers. These
    days that means you own a dog and have gained his love.
     
  15. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

    Unfortunately I do not have any divvs coins of Vespasian. "This is something up with which I shall not put". I do however, have a few other divvs coins.

    Augustus and Divvs Julius Caesar
    (27 CBE- 14 CE)
    Macedon. Thessalonique
    19 mm 8.0 g
    Obv: ΘECCAΛONIKEΩN
    Bare head of Augustus
    Rev: ΘEOC.
    Bare head of Julius Caesar
    RPC 1555
    Ex: Numismatik Naumann Auction 66 Lot 269

    Aug and JC.jpg


    Gaius, Silver denarius, RIC I 16 (R2, Rome), RSC I 2, Lyon 167, BnF II 21, BMCRE I 17, cf. SRCV I 1807 (aureus), VF, toned, attractive portraits, bumps and marks, some pitting, lamination defects, ex jewelry, Lugdunum (Lyon, France) mint, weight 3.443g, maximum diameter 18.2mm, die axis 180o, 2nd emission, 37 - 38 A.D.; obverse C CAESAR AVG GERM P M TR POT (counterclockwise from lower right), laureate head of Caligula right; reverse DIVVS AVG PATER PATRIAE (counterclockwise from lower right), radiate head of Divus Augustus right; ex Classical Numismatic Group, e-auction 69 (23 July 2003), lot 90
    Ex: Forum Ancient coins, March 2, 2018.


    Caligula RIC 16.jpg

    Gaius (Caligula), with Divus Augustus. AD 37-41. AR Denarius
    (17.5mm, 3.26 g, 5h).
    Lugdunum (Lyon) mint. 1st emission, AD 37.
    Obv :Bare head of Gaius (Caligula) right C. CAESAR. AVG. GERM. P. M. TR. POT. COS
    Rev: Radiate head of Divus Augustus right, between two stars.
    RIC I 2; Lyon 157; RSC 11.
    Fine, toned, deposits, chipped at edges, a few scratches.
    CNG E-auction 428 Lot 344 September 5, 2018

    Caligula RIC 2 new.jpg

    Divus Julius Caesar Denarius. 40 BC. Q Voconius Vitulus, quaestor. (20.39 mm, 3.36 g)
    Obv:Laureate head right
    Rev: Q•VOCONIVS above, S-C to sides, VITVLVS•Q / DESIG below, bull-calf advancing left.
    Crawford 526/4, Sydenham 1133. SRCV I (2000) 1428, RSC 45
    Ex: Frank Robinson.
    jc joined.jpg
     
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  17. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    I hadn't realised that. You have to remedy it ASAP!
     
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