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<p>[QUOTE="Oldhoopster, post: 4634703, member: 84179"][USER=24314]@Insider[/USER] I think the lamination is a red herring for the following reasons.</p><p><br /></p><p>The lamination cuts perpendicular across the discolored areas. I would expect that the lamination would follow the boundaries of the poorly mixed regions. If the regions have different ductility or hardness due to composition variation, they may not bond well as the ingot is rolled and elongated. This could result in weakness or lack of bonding between the regions along the boundaries. No issues there. But the lamination on this coin crosses multiple discolored regions. That doesn't make sense. And if the regions have a similar hardness, then they would be bonded with the other metal grains, so there wouldn't be a lamination.</p><p><br /></p><p>If the lamination is caused by a gas bubble or void, once again, I wouldn't expect it to cross through regions of differing compositions. Some reasons for poor mixing may be due to an area being hotter or colder than the bulk material. This could result in different viscosities within the melt. Also, It would not be unusual for regions of differing compositions to have different viscosities as they melt. How would a bubble cut across regions that have varying viscosities? It can't. The bubble would stay in the most fluid region</p><p><br /></p><p>Now if the marks were just stains left by a dirty roller and toned at different rates over the years, a lamination could easily cut across them because it was already in the ingot before rolling.</p><p><br /></p><p>I'm not a metallurgist and don't claim the comments in my last 2 posts offer definitive proof, but IMO, there are too many things that don't line up to make me believe it's an improperly mixed alloy. I believe the discoloration is a stain left by dirty rollers.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Oldhoopster, post: 4634703, member: 84179"][USER=24314]@Insider[/USER] I think the lamination is a red herring for the following reasons. The lamination cuts perpendicular across the discolored areas. I would expect that the lamination would follow the boundaries of the poorly mixed regions. If the regions have different ductility or hardness due to composition variation, they may not bond well as the ingot is rolled and elongated. This could result in weakness or lack of bonding between the regions along the boundaries. No issues there. But the lamination on this coin crosses multiple discolored regions. That doesn't make sense. And if the regions have a similar hardness, then they would be bonded with the other metal grains, so there wouldn't be a lamination. If the lamination is caused by a gas bubble or void, once again, I wouldn't expect it to cross through regions of differing compositions. Some reasons for poor mixing may be due to an area being hotter or colder than the bulk material. This could result in different viscosities within the melt. Also, It would not be unusual for regions of differing compositions to have different viscosities as they melt. How would a bubble cut across regions that have varying viscosities? It can't. The bubble would stay in the most fluid region Now if the marks were just stains left by a dirty roller and toned at different rates over the years, a lamination could easily cut across them because it was already in the ingot before rolling. I'm not a metallurgist and don't claim the comments in my last 2 posts offer definitive proof, but IMO, there are too many things that don't line up to make me believe it's an improperly mixed alloy. I believe the discoloration is a stain left by dirty rollers.[/QUOTE]
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