I think I have a George III 2 pence, 2nd issue

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  1. mopydick

    mopydick New Member

    Am I correct?

    And is it anything to get excited about because of its low grade?

    Found it in the back of my late grandfather's desk while cleaning up.

    Thank you for any info,

    Mopy

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  3. Dafydd

    Dafydd Supporter! Supporter

    Hi @mopydick at this grade nothing to get excited about $10 on a good day as it is so worn.
    Therein, other than the fantastic sentimental value and connection to your ancestor, it is really interesting and actually quite rare because of its poor condition.
    These coins were far from popular because they were heavy and wore holes in peoples pockets and were easily lost. You can find a lot of coins in superb condition, a lot in average circulated condition but you seldom see them so worn. In fact in 60 years of collecting I have never seen one so worn. It is almost as if it was a "lucky touch piece" and someone was continually rubbing it. They don't need to be on the Sheldon Scale and collected in lumps of plastic to be interesting! Thank you for sharing.
     
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  4. PaddyB

    PaddyB Eccentric enthusiast

    Ah, I think the reason it is so worn is because it is a penny, not a twopence. Diameter and/or weight would confirm, but the relative position of the features suggests to me that it is a penny. On the twopence, the centre point of the trident points to the right hand down stroke of the second N of Britannia, whereas on the penny it points to half way between the N and the I.
    Whereas the twopence never won favour and was often stashed away as a souvenir, the penny saw heavy circulation until the Victorian era.
     
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  5. mrweaseluv

    mrweaseluv Supporter! Supporter

    This might help a little here is the penny and the twopence with a quarter.. I do love these chunky coins :D
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  6. Heavymetal

    Heavymetal Supporter! Supporter

    Wow @mopydick
    A member for 11 years and your first post
    A man of few words
    Welcome to the fray
     
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  7. Dafydd

    Dafydd Supporter! Supporter

    Very good point @PaddyB as I only gave it a cursory glance as I thought the OP had identified it. I am curious to know the weight and diameter.
     
  8. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    Here's mine for comparison along with a ha'pence
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  9. Dafydd

    Dafydd Supporter! Supporter

    That's a great image @Kentucky . The Lincoln cent certainly puts the coins into perspective.
     
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  10. mopydick

    mopydick New Member

    Thank you everybody for your responses.

    It's diameter is 40mm which makes it 1mm shy of the normal 41mm. Maybe due to the wear?

    I don't know the weight. I can't find my scale at the moment but it is a heavy coin. When I find the scale, I'll report back.

    Mopy


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  11. mopydick

    mopydick New Member

    Turns out that its a penny.

    Found my scale and micrometer:

    35.85mm diameter
    26.3g weight

    @PaddyB hit the nail on the head.

    Thanks for all the responses,

    Mopy


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  12. mrbadexample

    mrbadexample Well-Known Member

    I do like these big coppers. :)

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    Compare the trident pointings between the penny and twopence as Paddy said.
     
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