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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;medoraman, post: 1679452, member: 26302&quot;]Fair enough Kasia. </p><p><br /></p><p>My main problem with this whole thing is the seller knows he is being misleading. He KNOWS there are things a numismatist cannot easily prove while the coin is in the slab.</p><p><br /></p><p>I am simply trying to see where you guys draw the line in the sand you believe Kirk crossed. Was it because he had doubts about the coin before he cracked it?</p><p><br /></p><p>This is how I view it. The seller knows full well he cannot sell garbage slabs on Ebay. He is sneaky and gets around those rules. Now he sells a lightly circulated business strike as a proof. Problem is, sometimes light circulation cannot be seen inside a slab. Second problem is like Mike said you need to see the rims sometimes to determine if its a proof or not. BUT, the seller explicitly says you cannot crack open the cheap slab. Who is being underhanded here? In my view the seller knows EXACTLY what he is doing, and is being underhanded by trying to force the buyers to be unable to catch him. If they do crack open the slab to find out his lies, he just voided any return privileges.</p><p><br /></p><p>In my view this is EXACTLY like hidden damage. If I get a coin in a 2x2 from a dealer who says I cannot return it if I take it out of the 2x2, yet when I do take it out I find rim damage, I do not CARE what the dealer says, its going back. A dealer cannot misrepresent goods and then hide behind his return privileges disclamier. The fact the dealer, in my mind, KNEW he was selling overgraded and misrepresented goods completely overrides what his return privileges say.</p><p><br /></p><p>The only thing that would make sense to me why good people like Mike and Ken would be objecting is the fact Kirk had doubts before hand. Is that the hangup? What if he was not sure? If he didn&#039;t know, and THEN cracked open the slab and found out it wasn&#039;t proof, would you then agree he should return it?</p><p><br /></p><p>Myself? The seller would have a SNAD case opened and receive the coin and the shattered remains of his lying slab in the mail. I have zero tolerance for dealers who sell misrepresented coins. They are a dealer, they are supposed to know what they are doing. If this dealer did know what he was doing, then he is a thief.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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