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<p>[QUOTE="Kasia, post: 1679449, member: 31533"]This was an interesting thread to read. Thanks, Kiruleez! I went to the seller's page where he sold it to you, and the main downfall of the seller is that he did in fact in the title list it as a proof. He also clearly showed the holder and the coin. The cheap slab said it was a PR-65. Also in his description he clearly states (my italics, underlining, and color): </p><p>[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]<font size="2">"RETURN POLICY: Your satisfaction is guaranteed! IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON YOUR PURCHASE OR WISH TO RETURN IT, PLEASE CONTACT US BEFORE OPENING A DISPUTE,THAT WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED. <span style="color: #ff0000"><u><i>WHEN WE RECEIVE ANY RETURNS WE WILL ISSUE A FULL REFUND FOR ANY REASON AS LONG AS IT IS IN THE ORIGINAL HOLDER AND YOU NOTIFY US AND SHIP IT WITHIN 14 DAYS.Removing coin from holder you receive it in voids return privilege. We sell certified coins as a finished product.</i></u></span> If you feel you are an expert and your coin will grade higher or cross over in a different service you are doing so at your own risk. "</font>[/FONT]</p><p><br /></p><p>So if you read the description, you can see he's selling the bargain slabbed product, but trying to do so within the confines of ebay where he can't put the grade up. But he still is selling "certified coins as a finished product". </p><p><br /></p><p>I think that Kirkluleez should have kept his mouth shut about this (over the internet) and popped the coin out to ensure it was a proof (by the edges and being able to look at the luster in hand). Finding it wasn't would then be a SNAD. And he should have filed one. It wouldn't matter at that point if the coin was out of the slab, as the seller was selling it as one thing when it wasn't. Then, if the seller didn't want the coin back, chances are the OP would have gotten his money back plus the coin. </p><p><br /></p><p>Kirk....you did this all wrong.... you got on your high horse and rode it into the internet sunset, proclaiming all the way what you "really wanted" in finding this out. Instead you got reamed by some and put yourself in a position where you did something wrong. You need to learn, kid! Never proclaim yourself the innocent when you are clearly sneaky in your own way and expect others to congratulate you for it.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Kasia, post: 1679449, member: 31533"]This was an interesting thread to read. Thanks, Kiruleez! I went to the seller's page where he sold it to you, and the main downfall of the seller is that he did in fact in the title list it as a proof. He also clearly showed the holder and the coin. The cheap slab said it was a PR-65. Also in his description he clearly states (my italics, underlining, and color): [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=2]"RETURN POLICY: Your satisfaction is guaranteed! IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON YOUR PURCHASE OR WISH TO RETURN IT, PLEASE CONTACT US BEFORE OPENING A DISPUTE,THAT WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED. [COLOR=#ff0000][U][I]WHEN WE RECEIVE ANY RETURNS WE WILL ISSUE A FULL REFUND FOR ANY REASON AS LONG AS IT IS IN THE ORIGINAL HOLDER AND YOU NOTIFY US AND SHIP IT WITHIN 14 DAYS.Removing coin from holder you receive it in voids return privilege. We sell certified coins as a finished product.[/I][/U][/COLOR] If you feel you are an expert and your coin will grade higher or cross over in a different service you are doing so at your own risk. "[/SIZE][/FONT] So if you read the description, you can see he's selling the bargain slabbed product, but trying to do so within the confines of ebay where he can't put the grade up. But he still is selling "certified coins as a finished product". I think that Kirkluleez should have kept his mouth shut about this (over the internet) and popped the coin out to ensure it was a proof (by the edges and being able to look at the luster in hand). Finding it wasn't would then be a SNAD. And he should have filed one. It wouldn't matter at that point if the coin was out of the slab, as the seller was selling it as one thing when it wasn't. Then, if the seller didn't want the coin back, chances are the OP would have gotten his money back plus the coin. Kirk....you did this all wrong.... you got on your high horse and rode it into the internet sunset, proclaiming all the way what you "really wanted" in finding this out. Instead you got reamed by some and put yourself in a position where you did something wrong. You need to learn, kid! Never proclaim yourself the innocent when you are clearly sneaky in your own way and expect others to congratulate you for it.[/QUOTE]
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