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<p>[QUOTE="JeffC, post: 4535334, member: 90913"]Hi everyone!</p><p><br /></p><p>(I'll be starting the ANA's correspondence courses in July and the syllabus includes a Counterfeit Detection course. I can't wait.)</p><p><br /></p><p>I've been collecting Chinese Pandas over the past couple of years. So far, I have 2010 to 2019. Those from earlier years are quite expensive (for me at least). I just won an auction for a 2020 Panda ($35). Since it wasn't a "ridiculously cheap" price, I didn't expect any problem.</p><p><br /></p><p>I received it today. The item description mentions that it is in the Original Mint Capsule. Now, for the Pandas that I own, I've noticed that the Chinese Mint capsules have 3 distinct "nubs" spaced equally along the circumference.</p><p><br /></p><p>When I received my 2020 Panda today, I noticed these nubs were missing. That triggered my suspicion initially. So I removed the coin and weighed it. It weighs 29.80g, instead of 30g. Since this is less than 1%, I thought it was acceptable. But after researching on the net, I understand that even a 0.1g deviation would be unacceptable. I tried searching here at CT, but couldn't find anything specific. There is a member called Pandacollector but he/she hasn't been around since 2017.</p><p><br /></p><p>Here are photos of the 2020 Panda I purchased.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1122960[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1122961[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>To my (untrained) eye, everything looks crisp and sharp. The thickness is identical to other geniune Pandas that I have. I compared this image to those from official coin sellers and can't find anything different.</p><p><br /></p><p>Here is its weight.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1122962[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>And finally, here's a side-by-side comparison of the capsules, which shows 3 nubs missing. (Now, maybe the capsule is wrong, but the coin is okay? That may be a possibility.)</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1122963[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>Finally, the coin is non-magnetic.</p><p><br /></p><p>I would appreciate and welcome your thoughts and comments. As always, thank you for the help and education.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="JeffC, post: 4535334, member: 90913"]Hi everyone! (I'll be starting the ANA's correspondence courses in July and the syllabus includes a Counterfeit Detection course. I can't wait.) I've been collecting Chinese Pandas over the past couple of years. So far, I have 2010 to 2019. Those from earlier years are quite expensive (for me at least). I just won an auction for a 2020 Panda ($35). Since it wasn't a "ridiculously cheap" price, I didn't expect any problem. I received it today. The item description mentions that it is in the Original Mint Capsule. Now, for the Pandas that I own, I've noticed that the Chinese Mint capsules have 3 distinct "nubs" spaced equally along the circumference. When I received my 2020 Panda today, I noticed these nubs were missing. That triggered my suspicion initially. So I removed the coin and weighed it. It weighs 29.80g, instead of 30g. Since this is less than 1%, I thought it was acceptable. But after researching on the net, I understand that even a 0.1g deviation would be unacceptable. I tried searching here at CT, but couldn't find anything specific. There is a member called Pandacollector but he/she hasn't been around since 2017. Here are photos of the 2020 Panda I purchased. [ATTACH=full]1122960[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1122961[/ATTACH] To my (untrained) eye, everything looks crisp and sharp. The thickness is identical to other geniune Pandas that I have. I compared this image to those from official coin sellers and can't find anything different. Here is its weight. [ATTACH=full]1122962[/ATTACH] And finally, here's a side-by-side comparison of the capsules, which shows 3 nubs missing. (Now, maybe the capsule is wrong, but the coin is okay? That may be a possibility.) [ATTACH=full]1122963[/ATTACH] Finally, the coin is non-magnetic. I would appreciate and welcome your thoughts and comments. As always, thank you for the help and education.[/QUOTE]
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