Oh I'm interested, and someone famous for putting together a great collection may draw my notice to a coin from it; all I'm saying is I don't consider that name worth paying anything for. I'd love to own something from his collection if I had the means and the opportunity; but I wouldn't pay a single cent more than a coin is worth without his name just because the coin is in a slab with his name on it. Provenance is nice, I just don't think it's worth paying anything for, at least not in the realm of coins.
I assume when you say "more than it's worth" you mean...more than the identical coin not from a famous collection is worth. There is nothing wrong with that if that's how you choose to collect...that's what makes this hobby great, we can all do our own thing. That said, if this is how you feel then you will never own one despite the fact you'd "love" to. The bottom line is...if you can tie something historical to a piece (be it a coin, rock, or anything else) it will be worth more than if it did not have that history. You may not think it's worth it...but to many collectors provenance does mean something. With that goes an increase in value.
What nobody is talking about is the fact that most of eliasbergs collection had higher quality coins. Coins which may be more valuable then grade alone
I did $3300. I'm ok a few hundred over value but not higher. And I love copper off metal patterns. So I know I'm over value but I am willing to go this high. No response yet
Sounds like you really want the coin so just bid on it. Regret from not doing something is an awful feeling. If you can afford it, go for it. You can always sell it later. Edit: I hope he accepts your offer. It is more than fair.
Eliasberg, Newman, Krause - they were great collectors - but all that really matters to a purist collector is how they themselves feel about a coin. That said I have some items that have at one time or another resided in other well known collections. It means little to naught for me, but does if down the road I am dispersing of my collections.
One other thing that nobody has mentioned, yet. At least I didn't see it if they did. That is that the TPGs routinely over-grade coins from name collections, just because they are from that collection. That should give you more reason for pause than almost anything.
I think this is an excellent point. I would imagine it's sorta like the 'ole "CC grade bump" we often seen.
The 1933 $20 that was sold a few years ago is a prime example of an overgraded coin. And many Eliasberg coins were cleaned, etc.