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<p>[QUOTE="IdesOfMarch01, post: 2583226, member: 39084"]I would never denigrate another's preferences but it appears that my attempts at providing insight into ancient collectors' standards (as they differ from modern collectors) have been misinterpreted as discourteous. This isn't the case. You're absolutely entitled to your preference for minimally cleaned ancient coins.</p><p><br /></p><p>Rather, I've been trying to elucidate the fundamental differences between collectors of ancient vs. collectors of modern coins. Dougsmit said it best -- collecting ancients is almost an entirely different hobby from collecting modern coins.</p><p><br /></p><p>The cleaning issue is one of those major differences, and as far as I can determine from literature about ancient coins, this standard hasn't changed in the centuries since authors started writing about collecting ancients. I'll accept your assertion that the standards for cleaning modern coins has changed in the last 50 years, but as far as I can determine, this simply isn't true for ancients. That's one of the points that I was trying to make.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>You can't possibly know whether or not this true, and I'd be surprised if it were. In the late 1950s and early 1960s I collected U.S. coins out of circulation. If you started collecting coins more than 55 - 60 years ago, then you might be a bit older than I, but probably not by much.</p><p><br /></p><p>In addition, "the hobby" to which you refer isn't quite the same hobby in which I'm engaged. There isn't just one monolithic "coin collecting" hobby. From the context of your post, it appears that "the hobby" to which you refer is collecting modern coins and you'd prefer to have those standards be the same in the hobby of collecting ancient coins. In my experience, this simply isn't the case. I had to learn and relearn about collecting ancients vs. what I remembered (very little) from collecting moderns, and I wasn't in a position to impose my own preferences on a hobby to which I was a newcomer. I had no choice except to be open-minded about my new hobby and learn from my dealer as well as others far more experienced than I'll ever be. </p><p><br /></p><p>It was my hope that this discussion of your preferences vs. ancient coin collectors' standards might provide some insights for everyone involved in this thread, but unfortunately that doesn't appear to be happening. Nevertheless, you're always invited and welcome to post your ancient coins in this forum, along with your comments and observations about why those coins in your collection appeal to you.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="IdesOfMarch01, post: 2583226, member: 39084"]I would never denigrate another's preferences but it appears that my attempts at providing insight into ancient collectors' standards (as they differ from modern collectors) have been misinterpreted as discourteous. This isn't the case. You're absolutely entitled to your preference for minimally cleaned ancient coins. Rather, I've been trying to elucidate the fundamental differences between collectors of ancient vs. collectors of modern coins. Dougsmit said it best -- collecting ancients is almost an entirely different hobby from collecting modern coins. The cleaning issue is one of those major differences, and as far as I can determine from literature about ancient coins, this standard hasn't changed in the centuries since authors started writing about collecting ancients. I'll accept your assertion that the standards for cleaning modern coins has changed in the last 50 years, but as far as I can determine, this simply isn't true for ancients. That's one of the points that I was trying to make. You can't possibly know whether or not this true, and I'd be surprised if it were. In the late 1950s and early 1960s I collected U.S. coins out of circulation. If you started collecting coins more than 55 - 60 years ago, then you might be a bit older than I, but probably not by much. In addition, "the hobby" to which you refer isn't quite the same hobby in which I'm engaged. There isn't just one monolithic "coin collecting" hobby. From the context of your post, it appears that "the hobby" to which you refer is collecting modern coins and you'd prefer to have those standards be the same in the hobby of collecting ancient coins. In my experience, this simply isn't the case. I had to learn and relearn about collecting ancients vs. what I remembered (very little) from collecting moderns, and I wasn't in a position to impose my own preferences on a hobby to which I was a newcomer. I had no choice except to be open-minded about my new hobby and learn from my dealer as well as others far more experienced than I'll ever be. It was my hope that this discussion of your preferences vs. ancient coin collectors' standards might provide some insights for everyone involved in this thread, but unfortunately that doesn't appear to be happening. Nevertheless, you're always invited and welcome to post your ancient coins in this forum, along with your comments and observations about why those coins in your collection appeal to you.[/QUOTE]
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