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<p>[QUOTE="red_spork, post: 2581805, member: 74282"]As most will recall from my previous posts, I've been focusing entirely on the Roman Republic, but I've been focusing on two areas a little more than the others: the silver victoriati and the "staff and club" series struck at a Second Punic War-era military mint thought to have been in Etruria. The intersection of these two interests is the victoriatus of the staff series, an extremely rare type known from only 3 die pairs and a type that, until very recently I had resigned myself to not being able to acquire for a very long time as the <a href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=1102322" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=1102322" rel="nofollow">two</a> <a href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=1743724" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=1743724" rel="nofollow">examples </a>on ACSearch at the time both sold for over $1,000 USD after fees, and even a <a href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=3363992" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=3363992" rel="nofollow">third</a> example that recently came up for auction went well above what my modest budget currently allows me to spend on a single coin. As you might imagine, when an example of the type showed up on eBay at a price I could afford, unidentified and mostly uncleaned nonetheless, I was both shocked and extremely apprehensive. After comparison with other examples in my photo file and my library, it was obvious that the style was right and the coin was a die match to another I knew of that I believed to be authentic, so I went ahead and bought it and anxiously waited for it to arrive.</p><p><br /></p><p>A week or so later I had the coin in-hand and there was no question, the coin was absolutely authentic and struck and looked to have excellent detail below the patina, but I'd never successfully cleaned a coin before, much less one so important to my collection that I couldn't risk destroying it. I wrestled with whether or not to clean it for a short time and sought out advice from a few more experienced collectors and a good friend who is a professional coin cleaner. I got some really good advice from each of these people, but the best advice I got was that there was probably a reason that some previous owner had started cleaning it and given up(see near the center of the obverse on the "before" pic) and I decided to suck it up and pay to have a professional clean it, so less than 24 hours after receiving the coin I was back at the post office sending it on its way to be cleaned.</p><p><br /></p><p>After a few days I got a message saying the cleaner had received the coin and would start on it and let me know how it's going shortly. A week or so later, I was told that whatever the encrustation was, it wasn't coming off easily and to preserve the underlying metal it would require a very slow process with a lot of physical cleaning. I received a few more progress updates over the next couple of months mentioning that it was going well but that still more time was needed to carefully clean this coin. Finally, a few days ago, I finally got the message I had been waiting for: the coin was done and would be on its way back to me shortly. Today I opened up the package and was greeted by the coin in the second picture. The coin has some underlying metal issues and porosity, as I expected because every example in my file has similar issues(maybe due to the specific alloy used?) but the important detail is all there and I'm extremely pleased with the result, which is in many ways better than I expected, and probably miles ahead of what would've been produced had I cleaned it myself. More than anything, I'm just excited to finally have the coin back and to have been able to add a type to my collection that I wasn't sure if I'd ever be able to add.</p><p><br /></p><p>The coin as I purchased it, with much of the reverse still completely gunked up:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]560484[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>The coin I received in the mail today:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]561154[/ATTACH] </p><p>Roman Republic AR Victoriatus(3.13g, 18mm). Anonymous("Staff and club" series), 209-208 B.C., Etrurian mint. Laureate head of Jupiter right. Border of dots / Victory standing right, crowning trophy with wreath; Staff between. ROMA in exergue. Line border. Crawford 106/1; Sydenham 209; RSC 24n.</p><p><br /></p><p>Please share anything relevant and let me know if you think I made the right decision.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="red_spork, post: 2581805, member: 74282"]As most will recall from my previous posts, I've been focusing entirely on the Roman Republic, but I've been focusing on two areas a little more than the others: the silver victoriati and the "staff and club" series struck at a Second Punic War-era military mint thought to have been in Etruria. The intersection of these two interests is the victoriatus of the staff series, an extremely rare type known from only 3 die pairs and a type that, until very recently I had resigned myself to not being able to acquire for a very long time as the [URL='https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=1102322']two[/URL] [URL='https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=1743724']examples [/URL]on ACSearch at the time both sold for over $1,000 USD after fees, and even a [URL='https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=3363992']third[/URL] example that recently came up for auction went well above what my modest budget currently allows me to spend on a single coin. As you might imagine, when an example of the type showed up on eBay at a price I could afford, unidentified and mostly uncleaned nonetheless, I was both shocked and extremely apprehensive. After comparison with other examples in my photo file and my library, it was obvious that the style was right and the coin was a die match to another I knew of that I believed to be authentic, so I went ahead and bought it and anxiously waited for it to arrive. A week or so later I had the coin in-hand and there was no question, the coin was absolutely authentic and struck and looked to have excellent detail below the patina, but I'd never successfully cleaned a coin before, much less one so important to my collection that I couldn't risk destroying it. I wrestled with whether or not to clean it for a short time and sought out advice from a few more experienced collectors and a good friend who is a professional coin cleaner. I got some really good advice from each of these people, but the best advice I got was that there was probably a reason that some previous owner had started cleaning it and given up(see near the center of the obverse on the "before" pic) and I decided to suck it up and pay to have a professional clean it, so less than 24 hours after receiving the coin I was back at the post office sending it on its way to be cleaned. After a few days I got a message saying the cleaner had received the coin and would start on it and let me know how it's going shortly. A week or so later, I was told that whatever the encrustation was, it wasn't coming off easily and to preserve the underlying metal it would require a very slow process with a lot of physical cleaning. I received a few more progress updates over the next couple of months mentioning that it was going well but that still more time was needed to carefully clean this coin. Finally, a few days ago, I finally got the message I had been waiting for: the coin was done and would be on its way back to me shortly. Today I opened up the package and was greeted by the coin in the second picture. The coin has some underlying metal issues and porosity, as I expected because every example in my file has similar issues(maybe due to the specific alloy used?) but the important detail is all there and I'm extremely pleased with the result, which is in many ways better than I expected, and probably miles ahead of what would've been produced had I cleaned it myself. More than anything, I'm just excited to finally have the coin back and to have been able to add a type to my collection that I wasn't sure if I'd ever be able to add. The coin as I purchased it, with much of the reverse still completely gunked up: [ATTACH=full]560484[/ATTACH] The coin I received in the mail today: [ATTACH=full]561154[/ATTACH] Roman Republic AR Victoriatus(3.13g, 18mm). Anonymous("Staff and club" series), 209-208 B.C., Etrurian mint. Laureate head of Jupiter right. Border of dots / Victory standing right, crowning trophy with wreath; Staff between. ROMA in exergue. Line border. Crawford 106/1; Sydenham 209; RSC 24n. Please share anything relevant and let me know if you think I made the right decision.[/QUOTE]
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