Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by edteach, Sep 21, 2023.
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I often find fixed price listings at CGB (seller of the denarius, it appears) to be quite high, but it may depend on the type of coin.
Here is my Augustus of the same type but not a fourree.
I did buy this one and it is indeed from CGB. Are they selling fakes?
No, not fake. If that's what it is, a fourrée is an ancient "contemporary counterfeit," and it's a normal, valid, collectible ancient coin. They just aren't official, solid silver issues, but made by ancient forgers.
(It looks like you can see copper core where there plating is broken, but it's hard to be certain from the photo.)
The listing may have described it as plated. Do you have a link?
Centered currency. Pleasant portrait. Gray patina
1.85 grams sounds excessively light even for a fouree. It doesn't look particularly crystallized or anything. I wonder if it's a typo?
AUGUSTUS, CAIUS and LUCIUS Denier brm_808075 Roman coins (cgbfr.com)
Strangely, it's not in the main description as they would usually do it. You have to scroll down to the "Commentary" section. And there is nothing mentioned on their VCoins listing.
There's nothing wrong with a fourree in and of itself - it's still an authentic ancient coin - but if you were wanting an official issue denarius, you could probably arrange a return or something with cgb.fr, seeing that the coin did not match their description. I've had nothing but excellent customer service from cgb.fr.
I imagine communicating through VCoins should be fine. I've always ordered from them direct.
They are based in France. But they've always been very quick to reply to me, of course taking into account the time difference from the USA.
My Augustus is not a fouree.
AR Denarius, 17.03mm, 3.76g
Augustus (27 BCE - 14 CE)
Lugdunum mint (2 BCE - 4 CE)
REV: C L CAESARES AVGVSTI F COS DESIG PRINC IVVENT, Gaius and Lucius Caesars standing, shields and spears between them.
Sear 1578, RIC 206
I and other collectors have had bad luck using the Vcoins internal messaging. Instead, I always send an email directly to the seller. That has always worked. I have always received a reply from the seller, whenever I've done that. Whenever I order a coin from Vcoins, I always receive 1 automatic email from the seller, which says "Thank you for your order!". Then, after I pay via PayPal, I always receive a 2nd automatic email from the seller, which says "We have received your PayPal payment". Both emails always come from the same email address of the form email@example.com. For example firstname.lastname@example.org. Another example is email@example.com. That's the direct email address of the seller.
Separate names with a comma.