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<p>[QUOTE="John Burgess, post: 8064825, member: 105098"]Any way I look at it, I don't see it as a Mintmark considering the lack of wear on the rest of the coin in comparison. the mm should NOT be that faint imho, so I don't know if it's was P or a S or an O, but it's not natural in my opinion whatever it is and likely qualified and a details coin, also in my opinion, just because of the shenanigans in the mintmark location. the strike itself suggests an S, but the mintmark is all kinds of funky......</p><p><br /></p><p>Should be able to identify it by die marriage and possibly by VAM with enough time and a magnifier and going theorugh the dates and mintmarks, but I'd probably start with P first. might just be odd damage and not a mintmark at all. </p><p><br /></p><p>theres so much research on Morgan dollars at this point of die pairings and VAMS likely it should be able to be identified as to what it is that way, with enough time and effort.</p><p>From added mintmarks, to embossed mintmarks, to machining two coins together to create a magician coin version of an 1889CC with a 1889P obverse and a 1883CC or 84CC reverse, there's all kinds of monkey business with morgan dollars.</p><p>if you can't identify the dies, it's either a rare new discovery or it's altered/counterfeit. </p><p><br /></p><p>Start with weight, inspect the edges for tampering with the reeding below where the "mint mark" is located, then try to identify the obverse or reverse and go from there until it's nailed down. </p><p><a href="http://ec2-13-58-222-16.us-east-2.compute.amazonaws.com/wiki/1889-P_VAMs" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://ec2-13-58-222-16.us-east-2.compute.amazonaws.com/wiki/1889-P_VAMs" rel="nofollow">http://ec2-13-58-222-16.us-east-2.compute.amazonaws.com/wiki/1889-P_VAMs</a></p><p><a href="http://vamworld.com/wiki/1889-S_VAMs" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://vamworld.com/wiki/1889-S_VAMs" rel="nofollow">http://vamworld.com/wiki/1889-S_VAMs</a></p><p><a href="http://ec2-13-58-222-16.us-east-2.compute.amazonaws.com/wiki/1889-O_VAMs" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://ec2-13-58-222-16.us-east-2.compute.amazonaws.com/wiki/1889-O_VAMs" rel="nofollow">http://ec2-13-58-222-16.us-east-2.compute.amazonaws.com/wiki/1889-O_VAMs</a></p><p><a href="http://ec2-13-58-222-16.us-east-2.compute.amazonaws.com/wiki/1889-CC_VAMs" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://ec2-13-58-222-16.us-east-2.compute.amazonaws.com/wiki/1889-CC_VAMs" rel="nofollow">http://ec2-13-58-222-16.us-east-2.compute.amazonaws.com/wiki/1889-CC_VAMs</a>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="John Burgess, post: 8064825, member: 105098"]Any way I look at it, I don't see it as a Mintmark considering the lack of wear on the rest of the coin in comparison. the mm should NOT be that faint imho, so I don't know if it's was P or a S or an O, but it's not natural in my opinion whatever it is and likely qualified and a details coin, also in my opinion, just because of the shenanigans in the mintmark location. the strike itself suggests an S, but the mintmark is all kinds of funky...... Should be able to identify it by die marriage and possibly by VAM with enough time and a magnifier and going theorugh the dates and mintmarks, but I'd probably start with P first. might just be odd damage and not a mintmark at all. theres so much research on Morgan dollars at this point of die pairings and VAMS likely it should be able to be identified as to what it is that way, with enough time and effort. From added mintmarks, to embossed mintmarks, to machining two coins together to create a magician coin version of an 1889CC with a 1889P obverse and a 1883CC or 84CC reverse, there's all kinds of monkey business with morgan dollars. if you can't identify the dies, it's either a rare new discovery or it's altered/counterfeit. Start with weight, inspect the edges for tampering with the reeding below where the "mint mark" is located, then try to identify the obverse or reverse and go from there until it's nailed down. [URL]http://ec2-13-58-222-16.us-east-2.compute.amazonaws.com/wiki/1889-P_VAMs[/URL] [URL]http://vamworld.com/wiki/1889-S_VAMs[/URL] [URL]http://ec2-13-58-222-16.us-east-2.compute.amazonaws.com/wiki/1889-O_VAMs[/URL] [URL]http://ec2-13-58-222-16.us-east-2.compute.amazonaws.com/wiki/1889-CC_VAMs[/URL][/QUOTE]
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