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<p>[QUOTE="Marsyas Mike, post: 3936162, member: 85693"]Ah, the heart is a lonely hunter, when it comes to countermarks. I decided to take another whack at my little mystery AE and found a likely partial thread, after only an hour or three. A listing in FORVM got me going in the right direction - one similar to mine, but the photo is pretty unclear:</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?param=20862q00.jpg&vpar=1375&zpg=19999&fld=https://www.forumancientcoins.com/Coins/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?param=20862q00.jpg&vpar=1375&zpg=19999&fld=https://www.forumancientcoins.com/Coins/" rel="nofollow">https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?param=20862q00.jpg&vpar=1375&zpg=19999&fld=https://www.forumancientcoins.com/Coins/</a></p><p><br /></p><p>The FORVM listing led me to this: "The Countermarks of Cabyle" by Dimitae Dkagabov. It describes the standing figure countermark as Artemis Phosphoros holding two torches! </p><p><br /></p><p>I was very excited, however I can only access the first page unless I pay $42.00 and as much as I'd like to support academic research, it is Christmas and I am broke. But the first "teaser" page shows the countermark, blurrily, and it appears to be a match. </p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1037566[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>Cabyle (Kabyle) is a fairly obscure place in Thrace - Wildwinds has a couple. Artemis with the two torches seems to be a civic logo. Seleucid AEs were extensively countermarked at Cabyle - I still haven't figured out the host coin - Apollo and what might be a lyre? The other countermark is a mystery as well. I found other references in this general area, but some are in Bulgarian. </p><p><br /></p><p>The hunt continues. Here is a somewhat better photo and my notes (which I copied from the FORVM listing - Tapolov, Houghton & Lorber):</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1037565[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p><b>Cabyle, Thrace Æ 15</b></p><p><b>(250-200 B.C.)</b></p><p>Laureate head right (Apollo?) / Lyre (?), Greek inscription.</p><p><b>Countermarks:</b> Both obverse:</p><p>Artemis Phosphoros holding 2 torches in 8 mm circle. </p><p>Cluster of grapes (?) in 6 mm circle.</p><p>Tapolov Countermarking p. 240, 4</p><p>Houghton & Lorber 2002 173, 184</p><p>(2.78 grams / 15 mm)</p><p>eBay Nov. 2019 Lot @ $2.20</p><p><br /></p><p> </p><p><b>Attribution Note: </b></p><p><br /></p><p>"The Countermarks of Cabyle" by Dimitae Dkagabov describes countermark: "...depicts Artemis Phosophoros holding two long torches...between 6 and 8 mm"</p><p>He notes 135 specimens from 16 countermark punches. </p><p><br /></p><p><b>Host:</b> I can't find it (Dec. 2019)[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Marsyas Mike, post: 3936162, member: 85693"]Ah, the heart is a lonely hunter, when it comes to countermarks. I decided to take another whack at my little mystery AE and found a likely partial thread, after only an hour or three. A listing in FORVM got me going in the right direction - one similar to mine, but the photo is pretty unclear: [URL]https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?param=20862q00.jpg&vpar=1375&zpg=19999&fld=https://www.forumancientcoins.com/Coins/[/URL] The FORVM listing led me to this: "The Countermarks of Cabyle" by Dimitae Dkagabov. It describes the standing figure countermark as Artemis Phosphoros holding two torches! I was very excited, however I can only access the first page unless I pay $42.00 and as much as I'd like to support academic research, it is Christmas and I am broke. But the first "teaser" page shows the countermark, blurrily, and it appears to be a match. [ATTACH=full]1037566[/ATTACH] Cabyle (Kabyle) is a fairly obscure place in Thrace - Wildwinds has a couple. Artemis with the two torches seems to be a civic logo. Seleucid AEs were extensively countermarked at Cabyle - I still haven't figured out the host coin - Apollo and what might be a lyre? The other countermark is a mystery as well. I found other references in this general area, but some are in Bulgarian. The hunt continues. Here is a somewhat better photo and my notes (which I copied from the FORVM listing - Tapolov, Houghton & Lorber): [ATTACH=full]1037565[/ATTACH] [B]Cabyle, Thrace Æ 15 (250-200 B.C.)[/B] Laureate head right (Apollo?) / Lyre (?), Greek inscription. [B]Countermarks:[/B] Both obverse: Artemis Phosphoros holding 2 torches in 8 mm circle. Cluster of grapes (?) in 6 mm circle. Tapolov Countermarking p. 240, 4 Houghton & Lorber 2002 173, 184 (2.78 grams / 15 mm) eBay Nov. 2019 Lot @ $2.20 [B]Attribution Note: [/B] "The Countermarks of Cabyle" by Dimitae Dkagabov describes countermark: "...depicts Artemis Phosophoros holding two long torches...between 6 and 8 mm" He notes 135 specimens from 16 countermark punches. [B]Host:[/B] I can't find it (Dec. 2019)[/QUOTE]
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