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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Insider, post: 3057476, member: 24314&quot;]I&#039;ll try to answer this.&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p>C-B-D did a great job removing the BLACK GUNK from the coin.&nbsp; There are many products you can use to remove it.&nbsp; That is not the reason the coin was &quot;detailed&quot; by NGC.&nbsp; The coin&#039;s surface is corroded.&nbsp; <span style="color: #b30000">It still is.&nbsp; <span style="color: #000000">Unfortunately, a majority of old copper is porous.</span></span></p><p><br /></p><p><span style="color: #000000">As for the grade, IMO, based on the grading guide images, <b><i><span style="color: #660066">TODAY</span></i></b> it is closer to a &quot;commercial&quot; VF 20 than a Fine 12.&nbsp; Decades ago Fine 12 would have been plenty.&nbsp; I suspect the NGC graders pushed it to a VF because once a coin is detailed, the coin&#039;s grade matters little.&nbsp; I also suspect the PCGS graders used &quot;Net Grading&quot; to drop the coin to Fine 12.&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><br /></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><span style="color: #000000"><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie14" alt=":angelic:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> Just think, everyone would possibly be happy with a F-15 straight grade. </span></span>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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