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<p>[QUOTE="medoraman, post: 2159996, member: 26302"]My position, based upon the BM, UNESCO, ancient Chinese writings and some Ph.D papers, (not bragging just letting you know my sources of material), was there were three distinct types of huns, Black, White, and Red. All three were forced out of their homelands by the Xiongnu, (recognized to be the Mongols). They themselves displaced the Yueh Chi, who displaced the Saka or Skythians. The Black huns migrated north and moved north of the Caspian and Black Seas, eventually interacting with Rome. The Red Huns were the first to enter Central Asia. This band was called the Kidarites. Later examples of Red Huns were called Alchon and Nezak. The Chionites, (later called Hepthalites after most likely a leader or family called Heptal), were the White Huns. They never migrated across the Hindu Kush but fought some battles there. Writers in modern Pakistan noticed the differences, and described the two different types of huns with different names.</p><p> </p><p>Everything you said about the Chionites/Hepthalites is true. They spoke many languages and were probably a disparate band of people held together by a central core. Such amalgams is not so unusual in areas and times of trouble.</p><p> </p><p>I would be glad to discuss further, especially when I am home and can actually pull out my books. This is just from memory. Central Asia, especially northern Central Asia, is my favorite history to talk about. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="medoraman, post: 2159996, member: 26302"]My position, based upon the BM, UNESCO, ancient Chinese writings and some Ph.D papers, (not bragging just letting you know my sources of material), was there were three distinct types of huns, Black, White, and Red. All three were forced out of their homelands by the Xiongnu, (recognized to be the Mongols). They themselves displaced the Yueh Chi, who displaced the Saka or Skythians. The Black huns migrated north and moved north of the Caspian and Black Seas, eventually interacting with Rome. The Red Huns were the first to enter Central Asia. This band was called the Kidarites. Later examples of Red Huns were called Alchon and Nezak. The Chionites, (later called Hepthalites after most likely a leader or family called Heptal), were the White Huns. They never migrated across the Hindu Kush but fought some battles there. Writers in modern Pakistan noticed the differences, and described the two different types of huns with different names. Everything you said about the Chionites/Hepthalites is true. They spoke many languages and were probably a disparate band of people held together by a central core. Such amalgams is not so unusual in areas and times of trouble. I would be glad to discuss further, especially when I am home and can actually pull out my books. This is just from memory. Central Asia, especially northern Central Asia, is my favorite history to talk about. :)[/QUOTE]
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