Log in or Sign up
Coin Talk
Home
Forums
>
Coin Forums
>
Ancient Coins
>
I Love Bad Pictures and Poor Descriptions!
>
Reply to Thread
Message:
<p>[QUOTE="Herodotus, post: 7659506, member: 111387"]As [USER=19463]@dougsmit[/USER] has alluded to above.</p><p><br /></p><p>Using methods of logic and deduction can be effective ways to attribute coins. When it comes to attempting to decipher (broken) legends. It may be akin to how similar techniques apply when one is doing a crossword puzzle.</p><p><br /></p><p>Often it can be discovered through a method of elimination to determine what a letter/character may be, or in the case of other clues (such as dates); what rulers it can't be.</p><p><br /></p><p>For example (on Imperial Coinage) if I see an I*P, there's a high probability that * is likely an 'M'; C*ES - likely an 'A'; T* P - likely an 'R' and so on, and so on.</p><p><br /></p><p>With Provincial Tets, many start with AVT and KAI/KAICAP (Greek abbreviations of IMP and CAE/CAESAR). Sometimes that is shortened to simply A K. Often, the end of the obverse legends end with (NAME)OC CEB -- Which translates to 'US' as in Carin'us' & Prob'us' or Maximian'us' & Gallien'us' --- CEB being the abbr. for SEBASTOS(or the Greek variation of AVGVSTVS).</p><p><br /></p><p>So by knowing (and potentially being able to recognize) these common legend parts, it can then help to be able to center in on the name of the ruler. For example if the legend ends in NOC CEB, it is mostly safe to presume that the ruler's (common) name being represented ends in the letter 'N'. That eliminates those that might end in 'tus', 'bus' or 'rus' for example.</p><p><br /></p><p>If I can make out a Δ in the name part of the legend. Well, of course I'm going to be eliminating rulers that don't have a name such as Diocletian, Decius, Claudius etc. Likewise, with 'P' I will be looking for Aurelian, Valerian, Probus, Carus etc.</p><p><br /></p><p>Even only being able to (clearly) discern 'AV' in the OP's coin significantly narrows down the possibilities of what ruler that it could be.</p><p><br /></p><p>I'm sure one gets the picture that I'm trying to convey here.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Herodotus, post: 7659506, member: 111387"]As [USER=19463]@dougsmit[/USER] has alluded to above. Using methods of logic and deduction can be effective ways to attribute coins. When it comes to attempting to decipher (broken) legends. It may be akin to how similar techniques apply when one is doing a crossword puzzle. Often it can be discovered through a method of elimination to determine what a letter/character may be, or in the case of other clues (such as dates); what rulers it can't be. For example (on Imperial Coinage) if I see an I*P, there's a high probability that * is likely an 'M'; C*ES - likely an 'A'; T* P - likely an 'R' and so on, and so on. With Provincial Tets, many start with AVT and KAI/KAICAP (Greek abbreviations of IMP and CAE/CAESAR). Sometimes that is shortened to simply A K. Often, the end of the obverse legends end with (NAME)OC CEB -- Which translates to 'US' as in Carin'us' & Prob'us' or Maximian'us' & Gallien'us' --- CEB being the abbr. for SEBASTOS(or the Greek variation of AVGVSTVS). So by knowing (and potentially being able to recognize) these common legend parts, it can then help to be able to center in on the name of the ruler. For example if the legend ends in NOC CEB, it is mostly safe to presume that the ruler's (common) name being represented ends in the letter 'N'. That eliminates those that might end in 'tus', 'bus' or 'rus' for example. If I can make out a Δ in the name part of the legend. Well, of course I'm going to be eliminating rulers that don't have a name such as Diocletian, Decius, Claudius etc. Likewise, with 'P' I will be looking for Aurelian, Valerian, Probus, Carus etc. Even only being able to (clearly) discern 'AV' in the OP's coin significantly narrows down the possibilities of what ruler that it could be. I'm sure one gets the picture that I'm trying to convey here.[/QUOTE]
Your name or email address:
Do you already have an account?
No, create an account now.
Yes, my password is:
Forgot your password?
Stay logged in
Coin Talk
Home
Forums
>
Coin Forums
>
Ancient Coins
>
I Love Bad Pictures and Poor Descriptions!
>
Home
Home
Quick Links
Search Forums
Recent Activity
Recent Posts
Forums
Forums
Quick Links
Search Forums
Recent Posts
Competitions
Competitions
Quick Links
Competition Index
Rules, Terms & Conditions
Gallery
Gallery
Quick Links
Search Media
New Media
Showcase
Showcase
Quick Links
Search Items
Most Active Members
New Items
Directory
Directory
Quick Links
Directory Home
New Listings
Members
Members
Quick Links
Notable Members
Current Visitors
Recent Activity
New Profile Posts
Sponsors
Menu
Search
Search titles only
Posted by Member:
Separate names with a comma.
Newer Than:
Search this thread only
Search this forum only
Display results as threads
Useful Searches
Recent Posts
More...