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<p>[QUOTE="BooksB4Coins, post: 2336936, member: 36230"]My knowledge of the subject is not the issue here. Unlike certain others on this forum, I do not flaunt my qualifications (or simply make them up) in order to appear knowledgeable, but instead rely on the content of my posts. If you wish to discuss such matters, start another thread, tag me, and I'll be sure to participate, but until then your insistence that I bow to your demand is nothing more than simple <u><i>deflection</i></u>; you're trying to divert focus onto me instead of acknowledging or even considering that a very reasonable and valid corrective point was made. Instead we have this little tangent, you flinging poo, and acting as if you're somehow the grand overseer of all that's good and holy.</p><p><br /></p><p>Now, for one last try to clarify the OBVIOUS....</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>A toothpick, without an additional qualifying statement, can indeed cause scratches; this is not intelligently debatable. It also doesn't matter that you add the "<i>professional</i>" warning for the simple fact that there are many who will snear at the idea. If you've even half the experience in this business you claim, you should know damn well that there are many - too many - out there who hear only what they want to hear, and see only what they want to see. Can you honestly say that you've never heard the old "<i>I know not to clean coins, but nice and shiny sell for more money</i>" or "<i>red (now pink) is worth more than yucky brown</i>" or the countless other idiotic excuses people have used to justify cutting their own throats? If not, you really need to get with the real world here. When one makes a statement that can potentially be harmful, they need to qualify it as if talking to a child. I realize this sounds harsh, and I'm sorry for it, but it's the truth. When someome says "<i>dipping coins is perfectly acceptable</i>", they need to give dilution or at least timing instructions so that someone doesn't run off to the jewelry store, grab a container, and toss their coins in overnight; after all, it's perfectly acceptable, right? Just as we see here day in and day out people who don't think they'd benefit from dealer assistance, there are those who assume that they can do just as good of a job as the next guy, and end up responsible for the permanent destruction of many fine coins.</p><p><br /></p><p>Perhaps what this forum needs is a <i>hippocratic oath </i>of sorts where certain members with a penchant for opening their mouths, in the name of doing no unintended harm, promise to actually think before they do so. <i>And I think to myself, what a wonderful world.. I see skies of blue.......</i>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="BooksB4Coins, post: 2336936, member: 36230"]My knowledge of the subject is not the issue here. Unlike certain others on this forum, I do not flaunt my qualifications (or simply make them up) in order to appear knowledgeable, but instead rely on the content of my posts. If you wish to discuss such matters, start another thread, tag me, and I'll be sure to participate, but until then your insistence that I bow to your demand is nothing more than simple [U][I]deflection[/I][/U]; you're trying to divert focus onto me instead of acknowledging or even considering that a very reasonable and valid corrective point was made. Instead we have this little tangent, you flinging poo, and acting as if you're somehow the grand overseer of all that's good and holy. Now, for one last try to clarify the OBVIOUS.... A toothpick, without an additional qualifying statement, can indeed cause scratches; this is not intelligently debatable. It also doesn't matter that you add the "[I]professional[/I]" warning for the simple fact that there are many who will snear at the idea. If you've even half the experience in this business you claim, you should know damn well that there are many - too many - out there who hear only what they want to hear, and see only what they want to see. Can you honestly say that you've never heard the old "[I]I know not to clean coins, but nice and shiny sell for more money[/I]" or "[I]red (now pink) is worth more than yucky brown[/I]" or the countless other idiotic excuses people have used to justify cutting their own throats? If not, you really need to get with the real world here. When one makes a statement that can potentially be harmful, they need to qualify it as if talking to a child. I realize this sounds harsh, and I'm sorry for it, but it's the truth. When someome says "[I]dipping coins is perfectly acceptable[/I]", they need to give dilution or at least timing instructions so that someone doesn't run off to the jewelry store, grab a container, and toss their coins in overnight; after all, it's perfectly acceptable, right? Just as we see here day in and day out people who don't think they'd benefit from dealer assistance, there are those who assume that they can do just as good of a job as the next guy, and end up responsible for the permanent destruction of many fine coins. Perhaps what this forum needs is a [I]hippocratic oath [/I]of sorts where certain members with a penchant for opening their mouths, in the name of doing no unintended harm, promise to actually think before they do so. [I]And I think to myself, what a wonderful world.. I see skies of blue.......[/I][/QUOTE]
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