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<p>[QUOTE="cplradar, post: 1918298, member: 108985"]Well, I researched this on the internet and found that they do use Potassium Cyanide</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://www.ncscoin.com/pdfs/conservation_guide.pdf" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.ncscoin.com/pdfs/conservation_guide.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.ncscoin.com/pdfs/conservation_guide.pdf</a></p><p><br /></p><p>Coins that exhibited normal tarnish were oftentimes</p><p>dipped into potassium cyanide to strip</p><p>away</p><p>their patina and leave</p><p>them bright. Even the United States Mint’s own curators would</p><p>periodically spruce up that institution’s collection with a rinsing in</p><p>cyanide, a risky business given this substance’s highly toxic nature.</p><p>In fact, the poisonous compound is known to have taken the life of</p><p>at least one prominent numismatist who, while engrossed in his</p><p>cleaning endeavors, mistook the deadly chemical for a nearby glass</p><p>of ginger ale. Fortunately, the use of cyanide to clean coins was</p><p>abandoned decades ago, and most of the pieces so treated have</p><p>naturally retoned to some degree.</p><p><br /></p><p>also</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://www.numismaster.com/ta/numis/Article.jsp?ArticleId=4580" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.numismaster.com/ta/numis/Article.jsp?ArticleId=4580" rel="nofollow">http://www.numismaster.com/ta/numis/Article.jsp?ArticleId=4580</a></p><p><br /></p><p>which this type of cleaning has been used to the detriment of the coins.</p><p><br /></p><p>Next, White discusses a cyanide coin dip. The association of cyanide with murder mysteries involving poison should be enough to turn any budding coin cleaner away from this technique. As White expresses it, "cyanide dips contain poison that can lead to death if ingested. Also, if the dip is acidified it can produce hydrogen cyanide, a lethal gas." Isn't that what they use in the gas chamber for executions?</p><p><br /></p><p>In addition, I'm reminded of Jim Jones and the mass suicide in Guyana by people drinking cyanide-laced grape Kool-Aid. Needless to say, I'm not recommending a cyanide coin dip.</p><p><br /></p><p>Next, we have the ever-popular acid-thiourea dip. This is actually what people refer to when they talk about "dipping" a coin. Truth be told, almost any time you see a brilliant, untoned coin that you would expect to have a measure of toning because of its age, it has almost certainly been dipped. As Scott Travers, writing in The Coin Collector's Survival Manual (5th edition), puts it, "It just isn't possible for 100-year-old silver coins to be as brilliant as when they were minted. Toning is a natural part of a coin's aging process."</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://www.coinbooks.org/esylum_v09n32a14.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.coinbooks.org/esylum_v09n32a14.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.coinbooks.org/esylum_v09n32a14.html</a></p><p>Cyanide is most effective in cleaning gold and other coins. Another</p><p>little known use of cyanide is in the electrolyte solution in making</p><p>coin and medal patterns -- galvanos -- these are oversize patterns</p><p>made from sculptors models intended to be reduced on a die-engraving</p><p>pantograph (as a Janvier) to cut a die or hub of appropriate size.</p><p><br /></p><p>Cyanide is ideal component in the electroforming baths for making</p><p>such copper galvanos. Such technology was developed by the French in</p><p>the Paris Mint and copied by other mints. I have yet to learn how</p><p>early it was in use in America (any E-Sylum reader know for certain?).</p><p>But it was well intrenched by 1920 for de Francisci's Peace dollar and</p><p>in use at the Philadelphia Mint for the next 40 years. [Copper galvanos</p><p>were ultimately replaced by an epoxy casting method that reduced the</p><p>time to make these patterns from days to hours.]</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://www.finishing.com/0000-0199/182.shtml" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.finishing.com/0000-0199/182.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.finishing.com/0000-0199/182.shtml</a></p><p><a href="http://www.mycoincollecting.com/collecting/cleaning-coins.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.mycoincollecting.com/collecting/cleaning-coins.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.mycoincollecting.com/collecting/cleaning-coins.html</a>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="cplradar, post: 1918298, member: 108985"]Well, I researched this on the internet and found that they do use Potassium Cyanide [url]http://www.ncscoin.com/pdfs/conservation_guide.pdf[/url] Coins that exhibited normal tarnish were oftentimes dipped into potassium cyanide to strip away their patina and leave them bright. Even the United States Mint’s own curators would periodically spruce up that institution’s collection with a rinsing in cyanide, a risky business given this substance’s highly toxic nature. In fact, the poisonous compound is known to have taken the life of at least one prominent numismatist who, while engrossed in his cleaning endeavors, mistook the deadly chemical for a nearby glass of ginger ale. Fortunately, the use of cyanide to clean coins was abandoned decades ago, and most of the pieces so treated have naturally retoned to some degree. also [url]http://www.numismaster.com/ta/numis/Article.jsp?ArticleId=4580[/url] which this type of cleaning has been used to the detriment of the coins. Next, White discusses a cyanide coin dip. The association of cyanide with murder mysteries involving poison should be enough to turn any budding coin cleaner away from this technique. As White expresses it, "cyanide dips contain poison that can lead to death if ingested. Also, if the dip is acidified it can produce hydrogen cyanide, a lethal gas." Isn't that what they use in the gas chamber for executions? In addition, I'm reminded of Jim Jones and the mass suicide in Guyana by people drinking cyanide-laced grape Kool-Aid. Needless to say, I'm not recommending a cyanide coin dip. Next, we have the ever-popular acid-thiourea dip. This is actually what people refer to when they talk about "dipping" a coin. Truth be told, almost any time you see a brilliant, untoned coin that you would expect to have a measure of toning because of its age, it has almost certainly been dipped. As Scott Travers, writing in The Coin Collector's Survival Manual (5th edition), puts it, "It just isn't possible for 100-year-old silver coins to be as brilliant as when they were minted. Toning is a natural part of a coin's aging process." [url]http://www.coinbooks.org/esylum_v09n32a14.html[/url] Cyanide is most effective in cleaning gold and other coins. Another little known use of cyanide is in the electrolyte solution in making coin and medal patterns -- galvanos -- these are oversize patterns made from sculptors models intended to be reduced on a die-engraving pantograph (as a Janvier) to cut a die or hub of appropriate size. Cyanide is ideal component in the electroforming baths for making such copper galvanos. Such technology was developed by the French in the Paris Mint and copied by other mints. I have yet to learn how early it was in use in America (any E-Sylum reader know for certain?). But it was well intrenched by 1920 for de Francisci's Peace dollar and in use at the Philadelphia Mint for the next 40 years. [Copper galvanos were ultimately replaced by an epoxy casting method that reduced the time to make these patterns from days to hours.] [url]http://www.finishing.com/0000-0199/182.shtml[/url] [url]http://www.mycoincollecting.com/collecting/cleaning-coins.html[/url][/QUOTE]
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