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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;GDJMSP, post: 1818202, member: 112&quot;]Sorry, but that just isn&#039;t rue at all. There are literally tens of millions of coins that have been properly cleaned by individuals and then slabbed by NGC and PCGS. They could care less if an individual does it. The only thing they care about is that it is done properly.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>No, they never say conserved even when they do the conserving themselves. They never say it at all.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>No, that isn&#039;t true either. For example, if you look up the codes that PCGS uses on their slabs they very plainly say - harshly cleaned.</p><p><br /></p><p>92|N-2 Cleaned – surface damage due to a <b>harsh, abrasive cleaning</b></p><p><br /></p><p>94|N-4 Altered Surface - Whizzed, <b>harsh cleaning</b>, thumbed over</p><p>(using a pasty substance to cover defects or alter the appearance).</p><p><br /></p><p>The problem is people, collectors, do not make the distinction between the terms - harsh cleaning and cleaning. The TPGs do make the distinction, they use the correct term.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Not true either, see above.</p><p><br /></p><p>Collectors need to educate themselves. Just because they think or believe something is true, that does not mean it is true.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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