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Message:: [QUOTE="eddiespin, post: 1714946, member: 4920"]Just never lose touch with the fact that when you clean coins you irreparably damage the surface. That's all you need to know, really. It's not rocket science. And today people look at coins with high-powered microscopes, so they're going to catch you. "Market acceptable" cleaning? Don't get too crazy about that. Think of that in terms of "brand acceptable," not "market acceptable." The TPGs are brands, just like Nike and Reebok. They set their quality standards and that's what gets into their plastic with their brand on it. You want to play in their markets at their price guides you pay attention to how strict or loose as the case may be they are on surface damage. The same thing goes for tarnish. You pay attention to the tarnish they think is "brand acceptable." "Conserved?" You know where that term fits. It fits with "NT" and is their vocabulary for describing "brand acceptable" surface damage. "Cleaned" correlates with "AT." Tarnish is "NT" or "AT" and surface damage is "conserved" or "cleaned" depending on whether the tarnish or surface damage is "brand acceptable" or not. Those high-powered microscopes? I don't think they have those, yet. But if they ever do those would be like their "coin sniffer" they use on tarnish. Collecting plastic is complicated, isn't it? <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]