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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;buddy16cat, post: 1499300, member: 37356&quot;]When I used the PCGS originally, I got VF 25.&nbsp; The seller&#039;s reasoning of &quot;I saw a coin listed at VF and this coin is much nicer than that one, so it must be XF&quot; didn&#039;t fly with me.&nbsp; I would have paid lower if I could but people kept outbidding me so I figured it must be worth more since it was to others.&nbsp; Still half price for that harsh cleaning though according to Numismedia.&nbsp; I ordered a Redbook and should check that.&nbsp; You can&#039;t ignore what is obvious though as far as what is cleaned or not.&nbsp; Those circular marks are systematic and look intentionally done. I am just wondering if the last owner did it but probably not since the reverse is starting to re-tone.&nbsp; If&nbsp; I was to speculate, I would say this coin if it made it into a slab, which it might, it would be listed as &quot;VF-Details, Harshly Cleaned&quot;.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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