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Message:: [QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 1469006, member: 112"]You're right, terminology is getting in the way. But I can't help it if you, and most other people, insist on using the incorrect terminology. All I can do is try to point out your mistake and hopefully tell you what the correct terminology is. By your own admission when you say "cleaned" what you really mean is "harshly cleaned". So why not just use the correct terminology to avoid confusion ? Is it so hard to type that one extra word ? Now I'll grant you, even the TPGs use the word "cleaned" on their slabs. But they are doing so because of space constrictions on the slab label. And if you read their designation - 92|N-2 Cleaned – surface damage due to a harsh, abrasive cleaning - they plainly say, harshly cleaned. There is a reason they do this. It is to differentiate between the two terms - cleaned, and harshly cleaned. Because those two terms mean two entirely different things.   So you are saying that NCS harshly cleans coins ? Well, all I can say is that the rest of the numismatic community, including the foremost experts on the subject, disagrees with you. Granted, the same processes that NCS uses "can" earn a coin the harshly/improperly cleaned designation. But only if and when it is done incorrectly. You yourself can use the same processes used by NCS to clean a coin, and if you do it correctly, that coin will not receive the harshly cleaned designation. Maybe, maybe not. Neither you nor I actually know. But does it matter ? Where is it written that only a chemist could know how to clean a coin without causing harm to that coin ? There are many, many, people who know how to clean a coin without doing it harshly or causing harm to the coin.[/QUOTE]

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