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if we change cleaned to conserved everyone will become happy

and don't worry GD there is only one wise guy in the castle

 

In what language does this make even a little sense?

 

Question: Wanting to clarify cleaning vs. preservation ideals.... Doesn't it only matter to preserve the coins that are actually valuable, such as a 1969s lincon ddo or a 1955 lincoln ddo? If I have an abrasion or mechanical or deterioration dd that isn't really worth anything special, that i plan to keep for my own collection, does preservation really matter? No serious collector is really ever going to want it anyhow, so why not? right? Now, if I have a neat specimen of the same types of doubling, but it looks cleaned, (or I cleaned it due to heavy gunkage for example) and i decide to sell it on ebay for a reasonable price, and state that i believe it's been cleaned and honestly identify the type of doubling, does that make me a fraud?I ask because I'd like to at some point sell some of my interesting and/or unique finds (none are any of the "big" ones), and want to make sure that when I do, I do not end up falling under the category that so many of the ebay sellers do. the ones that are considered a detriment or what-have-you to the hobby of coin collecting. :smile

 

if you cant understand it then dont bother

 

IMHO all preservation is cleaning. its just a question of cleaning being market acceptable or not. People views will be all over the place you will have to find out what you can make your peace with.

 

That definetly puts a different spin on it. Never thought about it like that. I so far, have only cleaned a few, and mostly some awesomely corroded ones, so that I could see the corrosion better, and examine what it does to the coin...fascinating stuff! I'm keeping them just cause they are so cool looking with their craters and volcano looking pits. So, for me, I am now thinking, if it's going in my keep jar, I will only remove debris (which I do by hand with water and with toothbrush or swab) If i come across a coin that's too corroded to see any kind of errors, it goes in the USE jar. Here's another question, I've noticed after giving several a water bath, and they drying with a soft cloth, (by rubbing, not patting , it's a very old linen cloth I used to clean my glasses before I lost them) they have a ?waxy? shine to them...is that from the cloth, or natural from rubbing dry??? Thank you both for your input, much appreciated and both gave me things to ponder

 

grandpa some day all coins will be cleaned and we will learn to accept and love them the way we do roman coins buried in the land. we also get out of the slabbing and grading fashion. 3 d printers for food are here soon you and i will be on a space ship together

If after reading this you come back to CT do let me know on second thoughts the GD alert button will tell me you have arrived.

 

i really like cleaned coins, as long as they're not too old (i think if it is starting to go into the 1800s then it should have it's original look), also if they are going to be sold at some point, i wouldn't clean them, if they are for your own personal collection and will always be there, then clean them! they look much better cleaned!

 

Just never lose touch with the fact that when you clean coins you irreparably damage the surface. That's all you need to know, really. It's not rocket science. And today people look at coins with high-powered microscopes, so they're going to catch you. "Market acceptable" cleaning? Don't get too crazy about that. Think of that in terms of "brand acceptable," not "market acceptable." The TPGs are brands, just like Nike and Reebok. They set their quality standards and that's what gets into their plastic with their brand on it. You want to play in their markets at their price guides you pay attention to how strict or loose as the case may be they are on surface damage. The same thing goes for tarnish. You pay attention to the tarnish they think is "brand acceptable." "Conserved?" You know where that term fits. It fits with "NT" and is their vocabulary for describing "brand acceptable" surface damage. "Cleaned" correlates with "AT." Tarnish is "NT" or "AT" and surface damage is "conserved" or "cleaned" depending on whether the tarnish or surface damage is "brand acceptable" or not. Those high-powered microscopes? I don't think they have those, yet. But if they ever do those would be like their "coin sniffer" they use on tarnish.

Collecting plastic is complicated, isn't it?

 

tell me Eddie if you used the wire brush on the 1794 dollar how much value would it lose?

 

Stick the wire brush in your ear, Spock. BTW, long time no see.

 

They look better cleaned is your opinion, not a fact and after you die and your grand kids sell them off, you ruined them for the next collector. Yes you own them, you can do what you want blah blah. But you know you are killing the numismatic value of the coin just because YOU think it looks better, but you do it anyway which makes no sense whatsoever. A cleaned coin is a cleaned coin regardless of age.

 

tsk tsk the answer scares you

I am always here keeping an eye put on grandpa

 

Don't you ever work? Excuse me, I have to get back...

"Would you like a hot apple pie with that? Your total is $4.95. Please pull up."

 

even though I only used water? hmmm, well, my assumption was way off. I was assuming there was maybe left over oils on it. Speaking of residues, how do I know if the coin has PVC and/or damaging residues on it, versus oil, dirt, random circulation gunk...???

Also, if I have a "raw" (i think that means, out of my pocket, not put in anything) coin that is of collector interest, do some collectors prefer to get them raw so as to care for them in their own methods?

 

i never clean mine either way but i meant like the ones to clean would be something like 1960s and up pennies and no date buffalo nickels, the only thing i have ever cleaned is no date buffalo nickels. unless they are REALLY dirty, i don't clean them, i think it is mostly all in what you like to look at, and as long as it is a non valuable coin (as i said like newer lincoln cents and no date buffalos).. and the only way i cleaned the buffalos were my finger and water, so it really doesn't damage it and that is the only way i would EVER clean anything

 

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