I just overpaid for a coin with a pedigree I've wanted for a long time

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by lordmarcovan, Oct 2, 2022.

  1. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    Paid through the nose, I did, and got some sticker shock after the buyer's fee, but by golly I prevailed, and after wanting one for a long time, I am finally the owner of a piece of the John Quincy Adams & descendants collection. I too happen to be a descendant of the sixth US president, so it's coming "back into the family", you might say. You can see why it was a "must have" pedigree for me to add to my collection.

    My stern-looking ancestor as an old man, circa 1843-48:


    The coin is a Roman Republican denarius.

    Ex-CNG Electronic Auction 524, Lot 408, 28 Sep 2022

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  3. mrweaseluv

    mrweaseluv Supporter! Supporter

    That is really cool, and i agree the family connection made it a "must have" lol :D A bit of a high bid, but if it comes with the proof of pedigree (and that's no minor pedigree) I can see it being worth well above expected value of just the coin :D
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  4. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Congrats and it's a nice coin. I've always wanted that type too. And linked old family, why not?
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  5. Cherd

    Cherd Junior Member Supporter

    To think, your great-great-great grandpa (or whatever it is) held that coin in his hands, pretty cool! Let alone the fact that, while he wasn't holding ancient coins, he was running the country!

    BTW, I'm working really hard on avoiding the ban-hammer by not busting out a wisecrack about certain aspects of the reverse. Forced conformity to political correctness is torturous :(
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  6. 1stSgt22

    1stSgt22 I'm just me! Supporter

    Bet that's one you won't be giving away in a contest! Not into ancients but understand why that one is special to you! Congrats!!
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  7. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    It IS rather *ahem* … anatomical. But since that’s in a Classical Roman context, it makes it PG- rather than R-rated.
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  8. expat

    expat Remember you are unique, just like everyone else Supporter

    A fantastic silver denarius. I think you paid for the provenence and pedigree as much as the coin. Great addition for you.
  9. Cherd

    Cherd Junior Member Supporter

    I wasn't trying to insinuate that posting the coin was inappropriate. It is the joke that I wanted to post about it that would have been problematic ;)
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  10. BuffaloHunter

    BuffaloHunter Short of a full herd Supporter

    Very nice pick up, Rob, and glad that it crosses a big one off the want list for you!
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  11. fretboard

    fretboard Defender of Old Coinage!

    Yep, he'd really look like you if he was wearing that famous hat of yours! j/k :DCongrats on the cool coin pickup, quite nice! thumbsup.gif
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  12. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Glad that Ian spared your domain, good to hear from ya.
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  13. masterswimmer

    masterswimmer A Caretaker, can't take it with me

    @lordmarcovan what a great bucket list item to cross off your list.

    Rob, I've got to say, you never cease to amaze me.
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  14. Parthicus

    Parthicus Well-Known Member

    That's a very worthwhile coin by itself, the pedigree adds to the interest, and if that famous former owner were also an ancestor of mine, I'd have no qualms at all in paying a premium. Nice snag!
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  15. tibor

    tibor Supporter! Supporter

    Congratulations!! Time to send it to NGC along with the provenance
    proof and have them put the proof on the label. I'm sure they will
    accommodate your request with an oversized holder. ie: One for
    the 5 ounce silver quarters. Plenty of room on the label for provenance
    and the large size to keep from getting lost.
  16. The Meat man

    The Meat man Supporter! Supporter

    That is so cool! Congratulations @lordmarcovan !!! The provenance history alone makes it an amazing collectible.
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  17. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Congratulations. As everyone knows I have an example from the JQA collection and I was just as excited to have it in my collection (athough there is no relation - as far as I know). I don't have access to my catalog to provide the full attribution.

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  18. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    I intend to do just that, though I’m hoping they’ll fit the pedigree on the label for a standard sized holder. I don’t want any oversized holders due to storage issues and the display conflict it would cause with my current albums and safe deposit storage boxes.

    @Bing - that’s a very nice Vespasian! Desirable even without the pedigree.
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  19. ominus1

    ominus1 Supporter! Supporter

    ...kool melord...Adams eh? ^^ addams.jpg
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  20. kountryken

    kountryken Well-Known Member

    My thinking, my @lordmarcovan, is this. You wanted it. It came up for sale. You were able to buy it. 'Nuff said! I'm very happy for you. If a coin comes available that I've wanted, and if I have the money at the time, I don't consider if it's a "good buy" or not. I consider it a successful acquisition! My coin collecting is a hobby, not an investment. Sometimes my hobby costs me a little money, sometimes it doesn't. But, I'm happy with my "hobby"!
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  21. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    Exactly. It’s not like I bought the thing to flip it.
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