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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Ryro, post: 8252963, member: 91461&quot;]Yeah, yeah.</p><p>&quot;Ry to the ro, you eat a 261 gr hunk of bronze...&quot;=</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1454477[/ATTACH]</p><p>You might say.</p><p><br /></p><p>Yet, here I am with what was misidentified as:</p><p>BRONZE AGE. Proto Money. Cut Down Piece of a &quot;Aes Rude&quot; Style Bronze Ingot (2000-800 BC).</p><p><br /></p><p>Obv: Flat surface.</p><p>Rev: Flat surface.</p><p><br /></p><p>.</p><p><br /></p><p>This type of ingots is an intermediate product of prehistoric copper processing in Europe and an early form of currency. It was available both in pure copper and in various mostly natural bronze alloys. The archaeological finds contain both whole cakes in various sizes and pieces.</p><p><br /></p><p>Condition: See picture.</p><p><br /></p><p>Weight: g.</p><p>Diameter: mm.&quot;</p><p><br /></p><p>No size nor weight? And what clearly looks like an entire cake, pancake, Aes Rude or Formatum (fun write up from FORVM if you want more) <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=aes%20formatum" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=aes%20formatum" rel="nofollow">https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=aes formatum</a></p><p><br /></p><p>However, due to Numismatik Naumann having a cut down piece as their #1 coin in that auction, my coin, #2, just didn&#039;t get properly identified.</p><p>I emailed them and asked the coins proportions and was given a staggering 6cm and 261 gr<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie101" alt=":woot:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie101" alt=":woot:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie101" alt=":woot:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p>[MEDIA=youtube]rrBx6mAWYPU[/MEDIA]</p><p><br /></p><p>And here&#039;s what I purchased on the sly for 80 euro before the juice with my identification below, that just landed in my mailbox (throwing my mail carrier&#039;s spine out of alignment in the process):</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1454492[/ATTACH]</p><p>BRONZE AGE. Proto Money. &quot;Aes Rude&quot; Style Bronze Cake shaped Ingot (2000-400 BC). 261 g, 6 cm.</p><p>This type of ingots is an intermediate product of prehistoric copper processing in Europe and an early form of currency. It was available both in pure copper and in various mostly natural bronze alloys. The archaeological finds contain both whole cakes in various sizes and pieces.</p><p>Purchased from Numismatik Naumann Feb 2022</p><p><br /></p><p>If you don&#039;t believe me in the size and weight...</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1454491[/ATTACH]</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1454509[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>At the dawn of recorded history what we/humans, in and around Rome, would do is pour heated AE into predug circular holes and the circular mass (cake), after cooling, would usually be broken into several pieces, with the weight of the chunk being it&#039;s intrinsic value.</p><p>It&#039;s circular and it&#039;s metal. Tell me how this is proto and not cold, hard coinage?</p><p>[MEDIA=youtube]cpbbuaIA3Ds[/MEDIA]</p><p><br /></p><p>Please share your ugly<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie58" alt=":jimlad:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> or pretty<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie16" alt=":artist:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> massive coins, proto Money, Rude Aes Graves<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie2" alt=";)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> cakes et al.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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