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<p>[QUOTE="Herberto, post: 3368132, member: 74222"]I have shown that coin before:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]893347[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>2,6 gram and 21 mm, and Sear 2601</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>I wrote that this Asper was struck under Manuel I Comnenus (1143-1180) in Trebizond when the empire was like this:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]893362[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>I was wrong. It is struck under another Manuel I Comnenus (who had exactly the same name) but ruled in 1238-1263 many decades later. Not in the usual Byzantine Empire, but in the state we know as "the Empire of Trebizond". After the 1204 sack of Constantinople the empire was fragmented where 3 successor states emerged:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]893361[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>Because the "Empire of Nicaea" retook Constantinople in 1261 they have been considered as the "true" Roman/Byzantine state by historians.</p><p><br /></p><p>Thus my Manuel is not called "Manuel II", but Manuel I (ruler of the Empire of Trebizond).</p><p><br /></p><p>So my coin was struck in the Byzantine enclave state of Trebizond under an emperor who had the same name of an earlier emperor.</p><p><br /></p><p>It is like receiving a new coin. I now have a different feeling when I hold that coin.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Herberto, post: 3368132, member: 74222"]I have shown that coin before: [ATTACH=full]893347[/ATTACH] 2,6 gram and 21 mm, and Sear 2601 I wrote that this Asper was struck under Manuel I Comnenus (1143-1180) in Trebizond when the empire was like this: [ATTACH=full]893362[/ATTACH] I was wrong. It is struck under another Manuel I Comnenus (who had exactly the same name) but ruled in 1238-1263 many decades later. Not in the usual Byzantine Empire, but in the state we know as "the Empire of Trebizond". After the 1204 sack of Constantinople the empire was fragmented where 3 successor states emerged: [ATTACH=full]893361[/ATTACH] Because the "Empire of Nicaea" retook Constantinople in 1261 they have been considered as the "true" Roman/Byzantine state by historians. Thus my Manuel is not called "Manuel II", but Manuel I (ruler of the Empire of Trebizond). So my coin was struck in the Byzantine enclave state of Trebizond under an emperor who had the same name of an earlier emperor. It is like receiving a new coin. I now have a different feeling when I hold that coin.[/QUOTE]
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