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<p>[QUOTE="Nemo, post: 2543982, member: 58462"][USER=8959]@Eduard[/USER] that is an absolutely fantastic coin! The variety of Judaea Capta types issued by Vespasian and Titus is staggering. Here is one of my favorites.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]545538[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p><b>Vespasian / Victory Orichalcum Sestertius</b></p><p>Vespasian, 69-79. Sestertius (Orichalcum, 34mm, 23.49 g 6), Rome, 71. </p><p>O: IMP CAES VESPASIAN AVG P M TR P P P COS III Laureate head of Vespasian to right. </p><p>R: VICTORIA AVGVSTI, S C in ex, Victory standing right, left foot set on helmet, writing on shield; in right field, mourning Judea seated beneath palm tree. </p><p>- BMC 582. BN 560. Cohen 625. RIC 468. Ex Oblos webauction 3 11/15 lot 292, Astarte S.A. XIX '06 Lot 956, UBS Gold & Numismatics '06 Auction 64 lot 173, Auction Numismatica Genevensis 1, Geneva, 27 November 2000, lot 147.</p><p><br /></p><p>I also have the only Domitian Judaea Capta Sestertius known to exist, although some might say I'm cheating with this one.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]545540[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>Domitian as Caesar / Titus Judaea Capta Æ Sestertius Mule, 25.38 g. Rome mint, struck 80/81</p><p><br /></p><p>O: [CAES DIVI] AVG VESP F DOMITIAN[VS COS VII] - RIC II 288-306 (Titus) </p><p>R: IVD CAP across fields; SC in field below; mourning Jewess to left of palm on pile of arms; Jew on right with hands bound, arms on ground. - Titus RIC 153 (Perhaps a die match); Hendin 1593b; Upcoming addenda Titus 287A.</p><p><br /></p><p>The only known sestertius mule under Titus. From the patina it was likely found in eastern Europe, perhaps Bulgaria, a rich find spot for a lot of the judaea sestertii.</p><p><br /></p><p>What evidence points to RIC II 288-306?</p><p><br /></p><p>As noted by Curtis Clay, "Obverse legends beginning CAESAR are rare, and so far only known with portrait laur. left, according to RIC 275-7. Legends beginning CAES are very much more common.</p><p><br /></p><p>With the N of DOMITIAN placed before Domitian's mouth, too much space seems to remain for just COS VII. We almost need that added VS to fill out the space.</p><p><br /></p><p>Flavian mules in gold or silver occur with some regularity, though they are all rare individually.</p><p><br /></p><p>It's not surprising, however, that very few sestertius mules occurred.</p><p><br /></p><p>1. Vespasian struck c. 90% of the sestertii of his reign in the single year 71. Mules were impossible, because he hadn't yet begun striking sestertii for Titus and Domitian!</p><p><br /></p><p>2. Later, when sestertii were being struck for Titus and Domitian too, the rev. types were not usually personalized, for example by carrying on the imperial titulature of each emperor, but were general and could be shared among the emperors, for example S C Spes advancing, or PAX AVGVSTI S C. Virtually all of the rev. types were appropriate for all three emperors, so there could be no mules!</p><p><br /></p><p>Under Titus the possibilities for mules increased, since more types were introduced that were apparently meant for just one of the two imperial brothers, for example:</p><p><br /></p><p>Titus: the Judaea Capta types, ANNONA AVG without S C, FELICIT PVBLIC, PIETAS AVGVST (Titus and Dom. shaking hands), PROVIDENT AVGVST (Vesp. hands globe to Titus), S C (Roma hands Palladium to Titus on horseback)</p><p><br /></p><p>Domitian: S C (Minerva fighting right)."[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Nemo, post: 2543982, member: 58462"][USER=8959]@Eduard[/USER] that is an absolutely fantastic coin! The variety of Judaea Capta types issued by Vespasian and Titus is staggering. Here is one of my favorites. [ATTACH=full]545538[/ATTACH] [B]Vespasian / Victory Orichalcum Sestertius[/B] Vespasian, 69-79. Sestertius (Orichalcum, 34mm, 23.49 g 6), Rome, 71. O: IMP CAES VESPASIAN AVG P M TR P P P COS III Laureate head of Vespasian to right. R: VICTORIA AVGVSTI, S C in ex, Victory standing right, left foot set on helmet, writing on shield; in right field, mourning Judea seated beneath palm tree. - BMC 582. BN 560. Cohen 625. RIC 468. Ex Oblos webauction 3 11/15 lot 292, Astarte S.A. XIX '06 Lot 956, UBS Gold & Numismatics '06 Auction 64 lot 173, Auction Numismatica Genevensis 1, Geneva, 27 November 2000, lot 147. I also have the only Domitian Judaea Capta Sestertius known to exist, although some might say I'm cheating with this one. [ATTACH=full]545540[/ATTACH] Domitian as Caesar / Titus Judaea Capta Æ Sestertius Mule, 25.38 g. Rome mint, struck 80/81 O: [CAES DIVI] AVG VESP F DOMITIAN[VS COS VII] - RIC II 288-306 (Titus) R: IVD CAP across fields; SC in field below; mourning Jewess to left of palm on pile of arms; Jew on right with hands bound, arms on ground. - Titus RIC 153 (Perhaps a die match); Hendin 1593b; Upcoming addenda Titus 287A. The only known sestertius mule under Titus. From the patina it was likely found in eastern Europe, perhaps Bulgaria, a rich find spot for a lot of the judaea sestertii. What evidence points to RIC II 288-306? As noted by Curtis Clay, "Obverse legends beginning CAESAR are rare, and so far only known with portrait laur. left, according to RIC 275-7. Legends beginning CAES are very much more common. With the N of DOMITIAN placed before Domitian's mouth, too much space seems to remain for just COS VII. We almost need that added VS to fill out the space. Flavian mules in gold or silver occur with some regularity, though they are all rare individually. It's not surprising, however, that very few sestertius mules occurred. 1. Vespasian struck c. 90% of the sestertii of his reign in the single year 71. Mules were impossible, because he hadn't yet begun striking sestertii for Titus and Domitian! 2. Later, when sestertii were being struck for Titus and Domitian too, the rev. types were not usually personalized, for example by carrying on the imperial titulature of each emperor, but were general and could be shared among the emperors, for example S C Spes advancing, or PAX AVGVSTI S C. Virtually all of the rev. types were appropriate for all three emperors, so there could be no mules! Under Titus the possibilities for mules increased, since more types were introduced that were apparently meant for just one of the two imperial brothers, for example: Titus: the Judaea Capta types, ANNONA AVG without S C, FELICIT PVBLIC, PIETAS AVGVST (Titus and Dom. shaking hands), PROVIDENT AVGVST (Vesp. hands globe to Titus), S C (Roma hands Palladium to Titus on horseback) Domitian: S C (Minerva fighting right)."[/QUOTE]
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