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<p>[QUOTE="Jaelus, post: 2869853, member: 46237"]I agree that clashes are noticed by the mint, and perhaps with ultra-moderns they quickly catch such defects and remove the dies from service, but the early mint did not have the luxury of switching out dies when they clashed. I have examples in my collection of multiple denominations produced up through the late 1860s where the dies were deliberately pressed into considerable use even after completely <i>shattering</i>, let alone having been clashed. In that case you have a pair of dies employed deliberately in that state to produce a group of coins with those same characteristics that are as-struck. This is by definition what makes a variety and not an error, and is moreso true with clashes, as unlike with cracks that progress between strikes, the clash is either there or it is not.</p><p><br /></p><p>I consider the line to be very clear between what is an error and what is not. An error is an unintended defect on a particular planchet or an unintended occurrence during the process of striking a coin, that leads to the creation of an example that is an aberration. You can have multiple coins with the same <i>type</i> of error, but they will each have been produced individually by a similar type of mistake.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Jaelus, post: 2869853, member: 46237"]I agree that clashes are noticed by the mint, and perhaps with ultra-moderns they quickly catch such defects and remove the dies from service, but the early mint did not have the luxury of switching out dies when they clashed. I have examples in my collection of multiple denominations produced up through the late 1860s where the dies were deliberately pressed into considerable use even after completely [I]shattering[/I], let alone having been clashed. In that case you have a pair of dies employed deliberately in that state to produce a group of coins with those same characteristics that are as-struck. This is by definition what makes a variety and not an error, and is moreso true with clashes, as unlike with cracks that progress between strikes, the clash is either there or it is not. I consider the line to be very clear between what is an error and what is not. An error is an unintended defect on a particular planchet or an unintended occurrence during the process of striking a coin, that leads to the creation of an example that is an aberration. You can have multiple coins with the same [I]type[/I] of error, but they will each have been produced individually by a similar type of mistake.[/QUOTE]
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