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<p>[QUOTE="cwtokenman, post: 892440, member: 2100"]I have two ref. books on Franklin exonumia. One is Franklin and Numismatics (1982) by Sanford J. Durst. Your items were not listed in this book, so I can only assume that the author did not include these items within the scope of his book. The other book is The Medals of Franklin - A Catalog of Medals, Tokens, Medallions, and Plaques Issued in Honor of Franklin (1993) by Phil W. Greenslet.</p><p><br /></p><p>Greenslet lists a range of diameters, but I am going to proceed on the assumption that your items are about the size of a one cent piece, such as like what is in my collection. If I am incorrect in making this assumption, please let me know what the diameters are so that I can provide the correct information. Valuations were not given, and would have been outdated even they had.</p><p><br /></p><p>There are three listings for these in the 19-20mm range:</p><p><br /></p><p>GM-100 - obv. - SOUVENIR BENJAMIN FRANKLIN MEMORIAL (around Franklin facing left); AUG. C. FRANK. 1706-1790 (below bust)</p><p>rev. - (building) THE FRANKLIN INSTITUTE</p><p>brass, 19mm, R-4 (76-149 known) (Fuld FR.M.FR.14)</p><p>The lettering positions and metal do not seem to match, but I wanted to list it just as reference. There were no photos with this listing.</p><p><br /></p><p>GM-101 - obv. - (star) BENJAMIN FRANKLIN (star) (around Franklin facing left; below, AUG. C. FRANK). 1706-1790 (below bust)</p><p>rev. - (building) THE FRANKLIN INSTITUTE (below); SOUVENIR - BENJAMIN FRANKLIN MEMORIAL (around)</p><p>aluminum, 19mm, R-1 (common)</p><p>copper, 19mm, R-4 (76-149 known) (Fuld FR.M.FR.15)</p><p>These photos match the variety with the round bust between the 7 and 0.</p><p><br /></p><p>GM-102 - obv. - (similar to GM-101; bust of Franklin smaller; lettering AUG. C. FRANK removed)</p><p>rev. - similar to GM-101; Franklin Mint logo entered under the Franklin Institute building)</p><p>aluminum, 20mm, R-1 (common)</p><p>Dies for the Franklin Institute stamping press were recut at the Franklin Mint in the 1970s.</p><p><br /></p><p>GM-102 photos show similarities to your second set of photos, but there are also considerable differences. GM-102 has the sharper pointed base of the bust, opposite the "0" as on your item, but the point of the bust in the book is not close to touching the "0". Yours does not have the lettering removed, nor does it show the Franklin Mint logo, The size and spacial relationship of your Franklin to the lettering though, is very close to the reference photos, such that I think the dies used to make your 2nd item may be the ones mentioned as the dies that were reworked in the 1970s.</p><p><br /></p><p>I hope this was of some help.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="cwtokenman, post: 892440, member: 2100"]I have two ref. books on Franklin exonumia. One is Franklin and Numismatics (1982) by Sanford J. Durst. Your items were not listed in this book, so I can only assume that the author did not include these items within the scope of his book. The other book is The Medals of Franklin - A Catalog of Medals, Tokens, Medallions, and Plaques Issued in Honor of Franklin (1993) by Phil W. Greenslet. Greenslet lists a range of diameters, but I am going to proceed on the assumption that your items are about the size of a one cent piece, such as like what is in my collection. If I am incorrect in making this assumption, please let me know what the diameters are so that I can provide the correct information. Valuations were not given, and would have been outdated even they had. There are three listings for these in the 19-20mm range: GM-100 - obv. - SOUVENIR BENJAMIN FRANKLIN MEMORIAL (around Franklin facing left); AUG. C. FRANK. 1706-1790 (below bust) rev. - (building) THE FRANKLIN INSTITUTE brass, 19mm, R-4 (76-149 known) (Fuld FR.M.FR.14) The lettering positions and metal do not seem to match, but I wanted to list it just as reference. There were no photos with this listing. GM-101 - obv. - (star) BENJAMIN FRANKLIN (star) (around Franklin facing left; below, AUG. C. FRANK). 1706-1790 (below bust) rev. - (building) THE FRANKLIN INSTITUTE (below); SOUVENIR - BENJAMIN FRANKLIN MEMORIAL (around) aluminum, 19mm, R-1 (common) copper, 19mm, R-4 (76-149 known) (Fuld FR.M.FR.15) These photos match the variety with the round bust between the 7 and 0. GM-102 - obv. - (similar to GM-101; bust of Franklin smaller; lettering AUG. C. FRANK removed) rev. - similar to GM-101; Franklin Mint logo entered under the Franklin Institute building) aluminum, 20mm, R-1 (common) Dies for the Franklin Institute stamping press were recut at the Franklin Mint in the 1970s. GM-102 photos show similarities to your second set of photos, but there are also considerable differences. GM-102 has the sharper pointed base of the bust, opposite the "0" as on your item, but the point of the bust in the book is not close to touching the "0". Yours does not have the lettering removed, nor does it show the Franklin Mint logo, The size and spacial relationship of your Franklin to the lettering though, is very close to the reference photos, such that I think the dies used to make your 2nd item may be the ones mentioned as the dies that were reworked in the 1970s. I hope this was of some help.[/QUOTE]
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