Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Ajax, Nov 11, 2016.
24 mm 16.94 g
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Coin: EF AR Tetradrachm
None - Athena Helmeted Right
AΦΕ - Owl standing right, head facing, crescent & olive-sprig behind within incuse square
Mint: Athens (415 BCish)
Wt./Size/Axis: 17.13g / 26mm / -
@Ajax ! They can be quite pricey, but they are fun to have.
Rather than posting an AR Silver Owl (I have 4), I will digress from the crowd and post a couple AE Bronze Owls... Just to be different. They are a little harder to find...
Athens 224-198 BC AE 12 Athena 2 Facing Owls RARE Agora 71
Sicily Kalakte AE unit 2nd C BCE Head Athena in Helmet - Owl rev RARE
From that @John Anthony coin-monger guy...
a standard Tetradrachma from Athens, best out of four:
@Bing whats up with all the little holes on your second coin??
I assumed it was caused by the way it was preserved, but to be honest, I really have no idea. I'm pretty sure there is nothing wrong (other than looks) with the coin. I got it from HJB who accepted my offer for it probably because of the ugly obverse.
Worn and cut but excellent style and centering
Full crest but surface problems and flatness on the owl
The popular tetradrachm is the easiest of the Athenian coins to find. The below 1/4 obol is easily the worst centering a coin can have and be 'full crest' but how many of you have anything smaller than an obol. (Who cares?) At the last show I asked for either an upgrade to this one or the even more scarce 1/8 obol. As it is this itty bitty scrap cost about the same as the worst tetradrachms on the market but is 1000 times rarer. The reverse is a crescent.
Three crescents make a 3/4 obol but is easier to find.
My favorite and most scarce owl is this three prong tail obol struck on a nice oval flan. I was happy to get it from NFA back in the day when no one wanted small silver. Sure I would like higher grade but I would insist on a clear tail feather separation.
https://coins.ha.com/c/search-results.zx?N=51 790 231&Nty=1&Ntt=owl&ic4=ArchiveTab-071515
You rock, Ajax!! ... congrats on breaking your owl virginity (cool OP addition)
Ummm, 90£ = $114 US = $150 Canadian is still a fairly considerate chunk of coin-change, but at least you've scored yourself a cool owl, eh?
=> welcome, coin-brother!!
Ajax, congrats again ...
I'm fairly sure that you'll search for more owl-targets, but it's always sweet to bag your first conquest!
I have no classic Athena owl tets but do have one rather uninspiring New Style tet from a large mixed lot:
"New Style" issue, 114/3 BCE
Magistrates Diotimos, Magras, and other(s)?
AR tetradrachm, 16.7 gm
Obv: helmeted head of Athena right
Rev: owl standing right, head facing, on amphora; magistrates’ names in fields; A on amphora, ΠE below; all within wreath
Ref: Thompson 660 ff
A couple of non-Athenian owls:
AE tetras, 3.11 gm
Obv: Head of Athena right, wearing winged Phrygian helmet; dotted border
Rev: KAMA (legend from top to bottom), with owl standing left, lizard in talons; three dots in exergue
Ref: Westermark / Jenkins 202, SNG ANS -., Calciati III No. 39
AE tetras, 3.34 gm
Obv: Large head of Athena left, wearing crested helmet with wings
Rev: Owl standing left, with lizard in talon; KAMA (retrograde) upward in right field; three dots in exergue
Ref: Westermark / Jenkins 198 (see FIG. Pl. 35 / 198.24), SNG ANS 1230 Calciati III no. 28/4 (dotted-border type)
There are certainly some nice mass emission owl tets in that auction. Heritage seems to attract ancient coin "tourists" from the modern side of collecting and I suspect the slabs carrying the MS label will sell for a hefty premium, probably to collectors who exclusively buy slabbed coins. High quality owl tets are pricey enough without the TPG assessment of grade so i doubt I'll try for one. It's worth keeping an eye on bids though in case I'm wrong
I agree that a "classic" owl tet is an iconic coin and belongs in any general collection of ancient coins, but the cost of these things relative to the massive numbers of available specimens is really annoying so I have yet to buy one.
Is that pronounced "tetra dram"?
Personally, I drive the dealers crazy with the literal (perhaps the original) pronunciation: Tetra-DRAKHmu
Is that Klingon?
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