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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;phankins11, post: 2374858, member: 70703&quot;]I&#039;m taking a chance at posting this here, I do not know if he is a member of the forum here...I highly doubt it as he&#039;d have probably been run off by now... </p><p><br /></p><p>&nbsp;Agreed, but I&#039;d rather not be told what&#039;s gonna happen...ignerntz is bliss <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie11" alt=":rolleyes:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>This guy ain&#039;t tryna to learn...trust me</p><p><br /></p><p>Conversation between us on FB</p><p><br /></p><p>me: Toning experiments? Are you ATing coins and then selling them?</p><p><br /></p><p>him: I tone coins for dealers and wut they do with it is there biz...lol..but basicly its a way to restore cleaned graded coins...it removes the cleaned grade when its regraded</p><p><br /></p><p>me: Interesting, so dealer sends coin in for grading, comes back with details grade (cleaned) and artificially toning them can help disguise that cleaning, then they resend in for grading?</p><p><br /></p><p>him: yeah for example a dealer yesterday cracked open like 5 grand in slabs that came back as cleaned...he gives em to me I remove the cleaner and then tone em...if you tone them without removing the cleaner your tone will be red...so I take the coin back to square one give em whatever kind of tone they are looking for and then they regrade with a different service and they just come back with an au or ms grade...my toning is chemical free so they pass like 9 out of 10 times</p><p><br /></p><p>me: Crazy, how are you removing the cleaner?</p><p><br /></p><p>him: Acetone mainly, some coin dip can be a bit challenging tho</p><p><br /></p><p>me: So how are you toning them...primarily heat?</p><p><br /></p><p>him: Yep</p><p><br /></p><p>Then he sent me examples of his work <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]486060[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]486061[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]486062[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]486063[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]486064[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]486065[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]486066[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]486067[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]486070[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>&nbsp; [ATTACH=full]486069[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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