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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Numismania, post: 1886140, member: 28971&quot;]I&#039;ll bite, and continue this, knowing I may be ostracized by bkozak, but, keep in mind, I&#039;m not trying to break bkozak&#039;s&nbsp; u-know-whats for shipping as he does, as when I do ship, even though I charge, it still costs me multiples more than that 49c stamp, so I AM understanding of his logic, but......</p><p><br /></p><p>Detecto has hit the nail directly on the head, and I couldn&#039;t agree more with him(emphasis on &#039;You MIGHT be able to get away with...).&nbsp;&nbsp; One day, more sooner than later, it&#039;s going to happen, and you WILL be called to the carpet on it.&nbsp; The more &#039;new&#039; buyers you get (especially those with low feedback), the closer you are to having this happen, as more and more buyers are just looking for free stuff, and could care less about the seller.&nbsp; I fully understand trying to minimize shipping costs, especially with ebay PUSHING for free shipping, which MOST ebay buyers EXPECT now (hell, it&#039;s just a matter of time before it&#039;ll be required).</p><p><br /></p><p>Shipping in a stamped envelope may work for only one or two &#039;90% junk&#039; coins, nothing of real &#039;value&#039; (just something to throw in a bag, as opposed to a graded coin, or even a 1 oz bullion coin like an ASE or a BU Morgan).&nbsp; Ship a Maple leaf (which is &#039;silver&#039;) in a 49c stamped letter envelope, and that Maple Leaf is going to have damage and get returned.&nbsp; As Detecto said, it goes through the roller machine, and this shipping method is not good for any coin, unless it&#039;s strictly going into a &#039;junk silver&#039; pile .&nbsp; I received a slabbed coin sent this way, and the slab was in pieces, envelope ripped, coin scratched (coincidentally, all the slab shrapnel was there...I could make a complete slab, and the coin still in the envelope).&nbsp; Was I within my rights to be ticked off, and want a refund because the seller was too cheap to ship it properly, according to ebay rules?&nbsp; You bet.&nbsp; Even though the seller put up a stink, he hadn&#039;t a foot to stand on, and ebay and Paypal&nbsp; sided with me due to the seller not following the seller shipping rules, which they accepted when signing up.&nbsp; I got my refund before the seller received the newly ruined coin (shipped back at my expense, no less, with seller refusing to reimburse my return shipping charges).&nbsp; Getting away from slabs, and onto &#039;silver&#039;, if I buy a raw ASE or raw BU Morgan for a Dansco (I don&#039;t, just using it as an example), and it gets damaged through those rollers, it&#039;s going back, as I don&#039;t want that in my album, would anyone?&nbsp; It may work for a VG &#039;64 Washington quarter, or a G &#039;45 Merc, or the like, but that&#039;s about it.&nbsp; Personally, as long as the coin is for a junk pile, I&#039;d be cool with that type of shipping, as I know it&#039;s only value is in my junk silver pile (though, it should be taped to the envelope to prevent it from breaking through the edge of envelope).&nbsp; If it is strictly for a &#039;junk silver&#039; accumulation, it may be, well, it IS a good way to save $ on shipping, but for anything else, including that raw bullion coin or BU Morgan, it&#039;s just not a good way, and even with that being said, there&#039;s more than one buyer that&#039;ll b*tch about it,&nbsp; get their $$ refunded due to no tracking, get the silver for free, and WILL result in receiving a neg feedback.&nbsp; Buyers are LOOKING for this type of stuff.</p><p><br /></p><p>What hasn&#039;t been asked of bkozak (to be fair to him) is, do you sell other than junk silver, where it DOES matter if it&#039;s shipped/insured PROPERLY (ie, it should not be shipped in a 49c letter envelope, requires a tracking #, which, as has been stated, and is fact, ALL ebay purchases are REQUIRED to have tracking)?&nbsp; And if you do, how do you ship those coins, and how do you calculate shipping charges?&nbsp; I understand this is a &#039;silver&#039; thread and don&#039;t want to derail it, but what about those &#039;silver&#039; bullion coins (or other coins, possibly slabbed) that are NOT just &#039;junk&#039; silver?&nbsp; Bullion coins are considered silver, obviously, but should they be shipped in the same manner as a &#039;slick&#039; for the junk pile (an envelope with merely a stamp)?&nbsp; I may not post a lot here, but do lurk, and do post more on other forums, and have been on ebay for a number of years (mostly buying, but selling off some for new purchases...but I do know ebay&#039;s rules AND ropes, though I think the ebay &#039;Coin Community&#039; could use more knowledgeable members, but it HAS been awhile since I&#039;ve gone there).&nbsp; On those other forums, if this scenario were brought up, there&#039;d be MANY more posts advising against shipping a coin, no matter the value, in nothing more than an envelope with a stamp.&nbsp; In the case of ebay, unfortunately, ebay is the 800 lb gorilla, and if the gorilla&#039;s rules aren&#039;t followed to a &#039;T&#039;, eventually you&#039;ll get a &#039;banana in the tailpipe&#039; (to quote Eddie Murphy in &#039;Beverly Hills Cop&#039;).&nbsp; Again, I FULLY understand keeping shipping costs to a minimum, but one day.....</p><p><br /></p><p>How many here would be &#039;enthused&#039; getting their merchandise shipped that way?&nbsp; Don&#039;t get me wrong, this is NOT a personal attack to bkozak for how he ships, and NOT trying to start anything in ANY way, just my rambling thoughts and facts as I know them about shipping where ebay is concerned.&nbsp; Detecto agrees....what say you others, would you be very pleased getting your coins/silver shipped (can&#039;t even call it &#039;shipped&#039;, it&#039;s mailed) in a stamped envelope, whether it be on ebay, or even from someone from these very boards?[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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