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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;bhp3rd, post: 833814, member: 16510&quot;]Doug what you are saying is the written facts as we know them in most books even my books as I just went and confirmed it.&nbsp; Your correct answer is not real world though from what I (and I&#039;m sure others) can see. The only reasons I can come up with is that the mint is fudging a bit by saying they (mint set coins) are from normally struck coins for a given year, they are not.&nbsp; Now why this has happend I have no idea and I admit I would never make such a claim if I was not certain, something don&#039;t add up - I&#039;m trying to tell you I can see the differents and see it anytime, anywhere.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Plus you were right about the 1990 year in general - the date in Denver was 1986 thru 2001 that a new German press was employed to strike only mint set and commemoritive&#039;s.&nbsp; I&#039;ll do some research for other dedacated presses soon for same.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>I must insist that this whole thing is one of 2 things:</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>1.&nbsp; The mint does indeed handle mint sets coins different either in the selected planchets, striking, tonage or some other method that is not, or has not been disclosed to us or readily explained, or they never felt like this was needed, I don&#039;t know right now.</p><p>2.&nbsp; The coins in mint sets somehow get that &quot;special sheen or glitter&quot; as I have tried to explaine by being in contact with the cellophane alone or envelopes.</p><p>Now you know it&#039;s most likely the secound point don&#039;t you? </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>But what I&#039;m telling you is it can&#039;t be &quot;the complete story&quot;.&nbsp; I see these and they are different.&nbsp; I went and looked through my coins and I can spot a mint set coin each and every time.&nbsp; I have 2 double row boxes of gem memorials, 1959 to date.&nbsp; In each year/mint I have between 5 and 10 examples of each.&nbsp; None are labeled just plain white 2x2&#039;s.&nbsp; In this mix are sometimes 1 or 2, (maybe all five or ten) maybe none, that are from mint sets.&nbsp; To me anyway it&#039;s as easy as shooting fish in a barrel. I will even up my ability to include all denomenations now and in all mint set coins verses buiness strike coins for all years 1960 to date not just 9 out 10 times but 9.5 out of 10 each and everytime.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Doug why would I claim such a thing, even say such a thing if I was not certain of my position and ability?&nbsp; I have nothing to gain here.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>My insistance in this matter is a ultimately not going to bare fruit if no other very experienced people chime in on this.&nbsp; I know what I see.&nbsp; To me it&#039;s sort of unbelievable that only <i>thad </i>knows what I know and can pretty much agree with me, and see what I see.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>I only wish you could see what I see and teach you what I know but I guess it&#039;s not possible. You got to remember I have looked at tens of thousands of bu rolls, many bags and broken up several thousand mint sets.&nbsp; I live and breath this stuff.&nbsp; When I look at a coin I see what all my experience has taught me.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>I can tell Denver from Philly coins since the early 1990&#039;s I don&#039;t know the reason but Denver coins from mint sets are higher quality overall.&nbsp; It holds true for regular buiness strike from Denver also.&nbsp; I thought this and all of my comments before were common knowledge but I find they are not.&nbsp; I&#039;m sort of shocked really - the differents is so obvious, this is crazy.</p><p>I don&#039;t know the reason but I know what I know.&nbsp; It&#039;s not written and it does not make sence but if I were at your house or you at mine I could convice you of every single thing I&#039;ve said in 5 minutes.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>The mint has historically told us partial truth and left out many things.&nbsp; Take single sguees hubbing and how no doubled dies could have happened.</p><p>Take Frank Gasparos&#039; comments regarding doubling at the mint - &quot;The Authoritive Reference&quot; Wexler - they were so far out as to laughed at by anyone with a brain.&nbsp; I respect the man and his contibutions very much but his comments were ridiculas at best and a lie for the most part.&nbsp; The mint has told us hundreds of time they did when they didn&#039;t, or they didn&#039;t when they did.&nbsp; </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>It&#039;s got to be &quot;that something is missing here&quot; and missing bad and I could prove it to anyone, anytime, anywhere.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><b>I wish that some other Lincoln Memorial specialists would comment because this thread as reached it&#039;s useful life.</b></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>I would be glad to send you an example of each type coin, a coin from a mint set and a MS-66 coin from a roll and on the phone I could show you in one minute &quot;to tell the difference&quot;, just pm if interested.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Mint set singles and regular buisness strike coins are not the same, no matter what is written or understood, they are not the same,[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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