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<p>[QUOTE="Conder101, post: 3216541, member: 66"]try US code title 18 section 492</p><p><br /></p><p>"All counterfeits of any coins or obligations or other securities of the <a href="https://www.law.cornell.edu/definitions/uscode.php?width=840&height=800&iframe=true&def_id=18-USC-2032517217-1912303260&term_occur=250&term_src=title:18:part:I:chapter:25:section:492" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.law.cornell.edu/definitions/uscode.php?width=840&height=800&iframe=true&def_id=18-USC-2032517217-1912303260&term_occur=250&term_src=title:18:part:I:chapter:25:section:492" rel="nofollow">United States</a> or of any <a href="https://www.law.cornell.edu/definitions/uscode.php?width=840&height=800&iframe=true&def_id=18-USC-729144131-848141009&term_occur=17&term_src=title:18:part:I:chapter:25:section:492" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.law.cornell.edu/definitions/uscode.php?width=840&height=800&iframe=true&def_id=18-USC-729144131-848141009&term_occur=17&term_src=title:18:part:I:chapter:25:section:492" rel="nofollow">foreign government</a>, or any articles, devices, and other things made, possessed, or used in violation of this chapter or of sections <a href="https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/331%E2%80%93333" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/331%E2%80%93333" rel="nofollow">331–333</a>, <a href="https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/335" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/335" rel="nofollow">335</a>, <a href="https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/336" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/336" rel="nofollow">336</a>, <a href="https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/642" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/642" rel="nofollow">642</a> or <a href="https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1720" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1720" rel="nofollow">1720</a>, of this title, or any material or apparatus used or fitted or intended to be used, in the making of such counterfeits, articles, devices or things, found in the possession of any person without authority from the Secretary of the Treasury or other proper officer, shall be forfeited to the United States.</p><p><br /></p><p>Whoever, having the custody or control of any such counterfeits, material, apparatus, articles, devices, or other things, fails or refuses to surrender possession thereof upon request by any authorized agent of the Treasury <a href="https://www.law.cornell.edu/definitions/uscode.php?width=840&height=800&iframe=true&def_id=18-USC-848184146-1912303259&term_occur=56&term_src=title:18:part:I:chapter:25:section:492" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.law.cornell.edu/definitions/uscode.php?width=840&height=800&iframe=true&def_id=18-USC-848184146-1912303259&term_occur=56&term_src=title:18:part:I:chapter:25:section:492" rel="nofollow">Department</a>, or other proper officer, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both."</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Basically all counterfeits are forfeit to the government and you can be fined or imprisoned if you don't turn them over WHEN THEY ASK FOR THEM. If they don't ask, you're OK.</p><p><br /></p><p>Oddly the way it is worded it sounds like you could get authority from to Secretart of the Treasury to possess them. And in the next part of the section it seem you can even potentially get forfeited counterfeits back,</p><p><br /></p><p>"Whenever, except as hereinafter in this section provided, any <a href="https://www.law.cornell.edu/definitions/uscode.php?width=840&height=800&iframe=true&def_id=18-USC-991716523-805818355&term_occur=277&term_src=title:18:part:I:chapter:25:section:492" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.law.cornell.edu/definitions/uscode.php?width=840&height=800&iframe=true&def_id=18-USC-991716523-805818355&term_occur=277&term_src=title:18:part:I:chapter:25:section:492" rel="nofollow">person</a> interested in any article, device, or other thing, or material or apparatus seized under this section files with the Secretary of the Treasury, before the disposition thereof, a petition for the remission or mitigation of such forfeiture, the Secretary of the Treasury, if he finds that such forfeiture was incurred without willful negligence or without any intention on the part of the petitioner to violate the law, or finds the existence of such mitigating circumstances as to justify the remission or the mitigation of such forfeiture, may remit or mitigate the same upon such terms and conditions as he deems reasonable and just."[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Conder101, post: 3216541, member: 66"]try US code title 18 section 492 "All counterfeits of any coins or obligations or other securities of the [URL='https://www.law.cornell.edu/definitions/uscode.php?width=840&height=800&iframe=true&def_id=18-USC-2032517217-1912303260&term_occur=250&term_src=title:18:part:I:chapter:25:section:492']United States[/URL] or of any [URL='https://www.law.cornell.edu/definitions/uscode.php?width=840&height=800&iframe=true&def_id=18-USC-729144131-848141009&term_occur=17&term_src=title:18:part:I:chapter:25:section:492']foreign government[/URL], or any articles, devices, and other things made, possessed, or used in violation of this chapter or of sections [URL='https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/331%E2%80%93333']331–333[/URL], [URL='https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/335']335[/URL], [URL='https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/336']336[/URL], [URL='https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/642']642[/URL] or [URL='https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1720']1720[/URL], of this title, or any material or apparatus used or fitted or intended to be used, in the making of such counterfeits, articles, devices or things, found in the possession of any person without authority from the Secretary of the Treasury or other proper officer, shall be forfeited to the United States. Whoever, having the custody or control of any such counterfeits, material, apparatus, articles, devices, or other things, fails or refuses to surrender possession thereof upon request by any authorized agent of the Treasury [URL='https://www.law.cornell.edu/definitions/uscode.php?width=840&height=800&iframe=true&def_id=18-USC-848184146-1912303259&term_occur=56&term_src=title:18:part:I:chapter:25:section:492']Department[/URL], or other proper officer, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both." Basically all counterfeits are forfeit to the government and you can be fined or imprisoned if you don't turn them over WHEN THEY ASK FOR THEM. If they don't ask, you're OK. Oddly the way it is worded it sounds like you could get authority from to Secretart of the Treasury to possess them. And in the next part of the section it seem you can even potentially get forfeited counterfeits back, "Whenever, except as hereinafter in this section provided, any [URL='https://www.law.cornell.edu/definitions/uscode.php?width=840&height=800&iframe=true&def_id=18-USC-991716523-805818355&term_occur=277&term_src=title:18:part:I:chapter:25:section:492']person[/URL] interested in any article, device, or other thing, or material or apparatus seized under this section files with the Secretary of the Treasury, before the disposition thereof, a petition for the remission or mitigation of such forfeiture, the Secretary of the Treasury, if he finds that such forfeiture was incurred without willful negligence or without any intention on the part of the petitioner to violate the law, or finds the existence of such mitigating circumstances as to justify the remission or the mitigation of such forfeiture, may remit or mitigate the same upon such terms and conditions as he deems reasonable and just."[/QUOTE]
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