I didn't believe them when they said PCGS is very tight on grading right now...

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by BustHalfNut, Dec 22, 2018.

  1. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    It's been explained to you multiple times before about how multiple grades can be the right grade for a coin ect and how yes grading criteria does evolve over time. The myth that gets pushed back on is the nonsense that gets spewed that they loosen and tighten to generate revenue.
     
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  3. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    Yeah, I just do classic U.S. coins and type stuff. Agreed about seated material.
     
  4. EyeAppealingCoins

    EyeAppealingCoins Well-Known Member

    It won't work. Once it's cracked - it's over. It is treated as a new coin because 1) there is no guarantee it is the same coin, 2) you could damage it in the crack out process, and 3) the coin could have incurred damage while in a flip before regrading.
     
  5. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    Lehigh explicity stated that the cycle of tightening/loosening standards is a myth.

    “There is no cycle, this is just more internet conspiracy theory from guys like you who feel slighted and financially damaged by PCGS's grading practices.”
     
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  6. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    As I said "The myth that gets pushed back on is the nonsense that gets spewed that they loosen and tighten to generate revenue."

    Yawn.......

    Like I said it's been explained many times. Hopefully people reading won't be so mislead by trolls
     
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  8. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

  9. wxcoin

    wxcoin Getting no respect since I was a baby

    That's a good reason to buy nice coins in ANACS slabs. If you do your homework you can get a great coin at a great price. You can even crack it out and send it to either NGC or PCGS for grading. If it gets a similar grade then you probably made a good investment when you sell it.
     
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  10. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    The problem is trying to find nice coins in ANACS slabs, because a lot of people do this. The nice ones get picked fairly quickly.
     
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  11. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    This is about Lehigh’s comment, not yours
     
  12. wxcoin

    wxcoin Getting no respect since I was a baby

    I can't agree more with that. I've bid on some nice ones hoping that others would skip by them because they weren't in NGC or PCGS plastic. Usually they bid up close to comparable NGC or PCGS prices.
     
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  13. ksparrow

    ksparrow Coin Hoarder Supporter

    Beliefs about "loosening" or "tightening" standards are every bit as subjective as.....coin grading by TPGSs!
     
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  14. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    Agreed. They’ve been really tough on seated stuff everything I’ve sent has been about a grade lower and almost everyone I talked to says the same. A lot of solid xf 40s coming back at 35 and au 50 at 45. It basically needs to be a 55 to get an au straight grade. And they’re brutal on surfaces any sort of ancient cleaning will get a details grade
     
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  15. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    Sorry, that sucks
     
  16. ksparrow

    ksparrow Coin Hoarder Supporter

    I wasn't so sure about this "tight grading" thing, but I had an email from sheridan downey about his current email auction. go to sheridanscoins.com and look at active auctions, lot 89-112 is a group of high end busthalves. A number of them grade high AU but for all appearances are MS. A nice group of coins that were set aside for generations by a family and appear to be totally original. I think you can look at this from a couple of directions: grading is very conservative, or the graders don't account for the variability in production of coins from the hand operated press.
     
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  17. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    The ones graded AU are clearly AU based on the worn-off luster on the high points and weakening of the luster in the fields.

    I actually like the new PCGS standards. Oops, did I just say that out loud? :oops:

    Oh, they do. They are pretty consistent in that regard.
     
  18. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    As a buyer, we should all love them.

    Sellers are less likely to love them....
     
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  19. EyeAppealingCoins

    EyeAppealingCoins Well-Known Member

    Something is wrong with you.
     
  20. thomas mozzillo

    thomas mozzillo Well-Known Member

    I don't feel that PCGS or NGC has tightened up their grading. At least not on Morgan Dollars. I'm seeing Morgans graded MS 64 that have so much chatter on them, not only on the face but in the fields as well.
     
  21. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    Cr@p!
    $5 for a coffee?

    Never mind.
     
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