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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;bhp3rd, post: 495033, member: 16510&quot;]From your photos I do not think it has been cleaned.&nbsp; Remember there are 2 sets of grading criteria - one for everything else but copper and 1 for copper.&nbsp; Copper is very, very hard to learn.&nbsp; Combine the numbers of coins stuck with the thousands of dies needed each year to strike them, that copper is the most reactive metal we have for coins you have a very hard and difficult subject to get a grip on.&nbsp; The only way to do this is to look at thousands of coins from every era and in every type condition there is.</p><p>Your coin looks good enough to me even if it had been treated it looks good.&nbsp; Plus I would not have it graded and leave it has is.</p><p>I firmly believe that third party grading has hurt this hobby and will someday be but a little footnote in numismatic history and a sad one at that - buy the coin not the slab and crack out as many as you humanly can in your numismatic lifetime.</p><p>Ben Peters[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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