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<p>[QUOTE="Boss, post: 494907, member: 15110"]<font face="Courier New"><font size="3"><font face="Courier New"><font size="3">I bought this coin from my local dealer for about $80. It's strike was so sharp (the 20's dies are notoriously mushy). It has the "halo" effect which is lack of cartwheel luster. Luster looks like a halo/circular vs cartwheel. I have been reading about this. When coins are made the metal flows into the recesses of the dies. The dies are not flat but more like rolling hills on a microscopic level. The reflected image of light causes this cartwheel effect (opposing light like a kid doing a cartwheel anyone unfamilar can rotate a MS Morgan dollar under a direct light source and you will understand). Once a coin has been overdipped the face of the coin flattens out and the reflection becomes circular. I looked up the ANA defintion of grading and Luster is part of the criteria all the way down to EF grades. I assume that means cartwheel luster. I know market grading allows for dipped coins which have retoned nicely, or are otherwise problematic but market acceptable to be graded by the TPG's. All that being said should I send this in? There is some cartwheel luster on the reverse. I think this coin is so attractive it my be graded based on the above. Any thoughts from the experts? :goofer:</font></font></font></font></p><p><br /></p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p><font face="Courier New"><font size="3"><img src="http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk118/dprice7/Lincolns/CoinsandChristmas2008266.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></font></font></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><font face="Courier New"><font size="3"><img src="http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk118/dprice7/Lincolns/CoinsandChristmas2008270.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></font></font></p><p><br /></p><p> </p><p> </p><p><img src="http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk118/dprice7/Lincolns/CoinsandChristmas2008271.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p> </p><p><br /></p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p><img src="http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk118/dprice7/Lincolns/CoinsandChristmas2008263.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p> </p><p><a href="http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk118/dprice7/Lincolns/CoinsandChristmas2008261.jpg" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk118/dprice7/Lincolns/CoinsandChristmas2008261.jpg" rel="nofollow"><br /></a></p><p><a href="http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk118/dprice7/Lincolns/CoinsandChristmas2008261.jpg" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk118/dprice7/Lincolns/CoinsandChristmas2008261.jpg" rel="nofollow"> </a></p><p><a href="http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk118/dprice7/Lincolns/CoinsandChristmas2008261.jpg" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk118/dprice7/Lincolns/CoinsandChristmas2008261.jpg" rel="nofollow"><img src="http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk118/dprice7/Lincolns/CoinsandChristmas2008273.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></a></p><p><a href="http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk118/dprice7/Lincolns/CoinsandChristmas2008261.jpg" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk118/dprice7/Lincolns/CoinsandChristmas2008261.jpg" rel="nofollow"> </a></p><p><a href="http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk118/dprice7/Lincolns/CoinsandChristmas2008261.jpg" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk118/dprice7/Lincolns/CoinsandChristmas2008261.jpg" rel="nofollow"> </a></p><p><a href="http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk118/dprice7/Lincolns/CoinsandChristmas2008261.jpg" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk118/dprice7/Lincolns/CoinsandChristmas2008261.jpg" rel="nofollow"><img src="http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk118/dprice7/Lincolns/CoinsandChristmas2008275.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></a></p><p><a href="http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk118/dprice7/Lincolns/CoinsandChristmas2008261.jpg" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk118/dprice7/Lincolns/CoinsandChristmas2008261.jpg" rel="nofollow"> </a></p><p><a href="http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk118/dprice7/Lincolns/CoinsandChristmas2008261.jpg" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk118/dprice7/Lincolns/CoinsandChristmas2008261.jpg" rel="nofollow"> </a></p><p><a href="http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk118/dprice7/Lincolns/CoinsandChristmas2008261.jpg" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk118/dprice7/Lincolns/CoinsandChristmas2008261.jpg" rel="nofollow"> </a></p><p><a href="http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk118/dprice7/Lincolns/CoinsandChristmas2008261.jpg" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk118/dprice7/Lincolns/CoinsandChristmas2008261.jpg" rel="nofollow"></a>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Boss, post: 494907, member: 15110"][FONT=Courier New][SIZE=3][FONT=Courier New][SIZE=3]I bought this coin from my local dealer for about $80. It's strike was so sharp (the 20's dies are notoriously mushy). It has the "halo" effect which is lack of cartwheel luster. Luster looks like a halo/circular vs cartwheel. I have been reading about this. When coins are made the metal flows into the recesses of the dies. The dies are not flat but more like rolling hills on a microscopic level. The reflected image of light causes this cartwheel effect (opposing light like a kid doing a cartwheel anyone unfamilar can rotate a MS Morgan dollar under a direct light source and you will understand). Once a coin has been overdipped the face of the coin flattens out and the reflection becomes circular. I looked up the ANA defintion of grading and Luster is part of the criteria all the way down to EF grades. I assume that means cartwheel luster. I know market grading allows for dipped coins which have retoned nicely, or are otherwise problematic but market acceptable to be graded by the TPG's. All that being said should I send this in? There is some cartwheel luster on the reverse. I think this coin is so attractive it my be graded based on the above. Any thoughts from the experts? :goofer:[/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Courier New][SIZE=3][IMG]http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk118/dprice7/Lincolns/CoinsandChristmas2008266.jpg[/IMG][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Courier New][SIZE=3][IMG]http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk118/dprice7/Lincolns/CoinsandChristmas2008270.jpg[/IMG][/SIZE][/FONT] [IMG]http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk118/dprice7/Lincolns/CoinsandChristmas2008271.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk118/dprice7/Lincolns/CoinsandChristmas2008263.jpg[/IMG] [URL="http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk118/dprice7/Lincolns/CoinsandChristmas2008261.jpg"] [IMG]http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk118/dprice7/Lincolns/CoinsandChristmas2008273.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk118/dprice7/Lincolns/CoinsandChristmas2008275.jpg[/IMG] [/URL][/QUOTE]
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