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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;7Jags, post: 2754984, member: 78719&quot;]Don&#039;t forget that they can always claim &quot;mechanical error&quot; when caught in their &quot;stuff&quot;. Also, some of these mechanical errors have somehow been beaned. Honestly I&#039;ve seen them (the TPGs) go high or low.</p><p>I don&#039;t beat my chest, but there are some darkside series that I would gladly put my expertise up against the best at N or P, and they make some unacceptable judgements on coins I have seen both in attribution but more to this coin, in grading. I have seen both be off in GB &quot;off year&quot; matte proofs by 3 points and occasionally up to 5.</p><p>I recently tried to photo a Washie in slab and it looked miserable, couldn&#039;t get the luster &amp; some apparent chatter marks - smaller than those on this coin - are not there even under magnification.</p><p><br /></p><p>We always get the &quot;must see in hand&quot;, an escape I also use too much but these photos appear to show some charms on both the obverse and reverse that appear larger than artifact and warrant a significantly lower grade despite any possibility of wonderful luster.</p><p>BTW, nobody mentioned the soft strike and also reverse issues at rim towards 10 o&#039;clock.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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