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Message:: [QUOTE="Joea59, post: 5164862, member: 80707"]This hobby has it's ups and downs and everything in between. If the TPGs can't catch the fakes that are sent to them where does that leave us? It's bad enough to have to worry about fake raw coins, fake coins in fake TPG slabs but to have to worry about having a fake coin in an authentic TPG slab is just plan wrong! TPGs should be our insurance of sort. And it seems now like there are some people who know they are buying fakes and actually want them! I mean WHY? Yea educational  purpose and conversation piece but to look for and want a collection or set of known fakes just does not make sense to me. It's been said if you want to but something that's authentic buy certified or have it certified. Well that almost seems like it's out the window. This is just my view on it and everybody has his own views and wants but it's just frustrating and confusing.[/QUOTE]