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<p>[QUOTE="Conder101, post: 171300, member: 66"]And just what makes you think such a method hasn't already been dscovered? As you postulated, if they can't be told from the naturally toned coins then any toned coin out there could be one of them and there would be no way to prove otherwise.</p><p><br /></p><p>But would it be a good thing to openly reveal such knowledge? No, because doing so would beeifit no one and would damage a great many. More likely it would wind up being closely held and used to create a amall trickle of stunning toned coins that would slowly come onto the market and sell for silly money enriching the chemist. From time to time a small hoard of toned pieces could be "discovered" to keep the maket stirred up (Think something similar to the Peacock Hoard or the Battlecreek hoard) From time to time you would stop production and let the ones you have already made be absorbed and disappear from the market. (Too many would alert people that something is up. By the way have you noticed that there are a TON more toned coins available on the market than there were say even five years ago?) Then you could start over. Done right you could stay rolling in clover for the rest of your life. But if the secret was released, you would have thousands or tens of thousands of people "trying it out" resulting in HUGE numbers of toned coins suddenly appearing on the market and the value of EVERY coin with any color on it would plummet because all would be suspect. This would result in a market backlash that demanded only absolutely blast white coins, dip would sell by the 55 gallon drum and almost every coin out there would get stripped. The toning knowledge would fall out of favor and eventually be forgotten except by a few. Then after a few years, a few coins with just a little color would start appearing. Then eventually people would start talking about how coins aren't naturally blast white after all that time and some toning shows that they are original. and as time past more and more exotic toned pieces would be discovered, maybe some hoards of toned pieces etc. Lather, rinse, repeat.</p><p><br /></p><p>I see the current gah-gah fad over toned coins as the third cycle since I started collecting.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Fine, How do you enforce it? In order to do so you're going to have to be able to PROVE that the coin is AT and that there is no way it could possibly have arrived at that color/look by natural means. Since the oxides and sulfides that make up the toning layers are chemically identical whether they formed over twenty minutes or a hundred and twenty years that is going to be a tall order.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Conder101, post: 171300, member: 66"]And just what makes you think such a method hasn't already been dscovered? As you postulated, if they can't be told from the naturally toned coins then any toned coin out there could be one of them and there would be no way to prove otherwise. But would it be a good thing to openly reveal such knowledge? No, because doing so would beeifit no one and would damage a great many. More likely it would wind up being closely held and used to create a amall trickle of stunning toned coins that would slowly come onto the market and sell for silly money enriching the chemist. From time to time a small hoard of toned pieces could be "discovered" to keep the maket stirred up (Think something similar to the Peacock Hoard or the Battlecreek hoard) From time to time you would stop production and let the ones you have already made be absorbed and disappear from the market. (Too many would alert people that something is up. By the way have you noticed that there are a TON more toned coins available on the market than there were say even five years ago?) Then you could start over. Done right you could stay rolling in clover for the rest of your life. But if the secret was released, you would have thousands or tens of thousands of people "trying it out" resulting in HUGE numbers of toned coins suddenly appearing on the market and the value of EVERY coin with any color on it would plummet because all would be suspect. This would result in a market backlash that demanded only absolutely blast white coins, dip would sell by the 55 gallon drum and almost every coin out there would get stripped. The toning knowledge would fall out of favor and eventually be forgotten except by a few. Then after a few years, a few coins with just a little color would start appearing. Then eventually people would start talking about how coins aren't naturally blast white after all that time and some toning shows that they are original. and as time past more and more exotic toned pieces would be discovered, maybe some hoards of toned pieces etc. Lather, rinse, repeat. I see the current gah-gah fad over toned coins as the third cycle since I started collecting. Fine, How do you enforce it? In order to do so you're going to have to be able to PROVE that the coin is AT and that there is no way it could possibly have arrived at that color/look by natural means. Since the oxides and sulfides that make up the toning layers are chemically identical whether they formed over twenty minutes or a hundred and twenty years that is going to be a tall order.[/QUOTE]
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