How would you grade this Jefferson?

Here is an NGC MS67.



I think his coin might be cleaner and better struck.

 

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We can continue this debate tomorrow.
After I sleep on it. Paul...I learned from watching you!

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I think we are interpreting his images differently because you and I are normally on the same page when it comes to Jefferson Nickel grading.

 

Easy 66. Can't tell if it has the luster to go 67. Nice coin.

 

Is there bridging under column 2 (Left to Right) on the bottom steps? Would that preclude FS designation?

 

I grade it yummy!!!

66FS

 

Bingo.

The dark rubs are the first thing I notice when I see this coin, in addition to that "dent" on the reverse.
I also think the black streaks on the reverse below Monitcello are very distracting.
Not to mention, distinguishing between 65/66/67 is not an easy task based on one image of the coin.
Like Paul said, things are interpreted differently. I mean, one shift of the lighting used when imaging can make drastic chances in appearance.

I am not saying it isn't a great strike, but I think some commentors are putting too much faith in the strike.

 

Honestly, I believe my photos are the main cause of the argument. lots of glare, poor lighting angle, etc...

In regards to the "dent" in the reverse, its a strike mark (agian its enhanced due to glare)


I'll try and post some pictures tonight with less direct lighting to eliminate glare. I'm not the best at photography.

 

No worries Josh. These type of threads are great. Good debates and educational information. Just don't take any comments about your coin personally.

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The red circled areas on the obverse are simple strike incompleteness and are found on many mint state Jefferson Nickels. The blue circled are on the obverse is a contrast effect on the photo. If I took a photo of this coin using my method, this entire area of concern would disappear. I am not saying that it doesn't have a different surface texture than the surrounding area, it might. What I am saying is that it would appear anything like wear in my photo.

I have no idea what you are pointing to with the red circle on the reverse, looks like glare to me. The indentation in the blue circle is very common and is as struck. It creates the luster contrast known as the "halo effect." The only thing unusual about it is that the "halo effect" is typically seen on early date "S" mint Jeffersons. That said, I have seen it on Philly and Denver coins before. Here is a good example of a 1940-S that shows the "halo effect."

 

My coin shows the same effect in the hair. It is weak strike not wear.

That dent is "as struck" and it is what causes the "halo effect" If you were to see the coin I posted in hand, you would see the exact same dent, though less severe. Perhaps you can see it better in this photo.



If you study the Jefferson series in depth, you will find coin after coin that show this exact same effect in the exact same spot. It is not post mint damage!

 

As it did for I. I'd say, probably 66 FS, with a shot at 67.

 

I have a jefferson in a 1966 SMS set. It has that reverse halo as well.

 

here are some different angles of lighting

 

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anyone knows a good error site for jeffersons??or book..pm me

 

My opinion of the coin has not changed.

 

MS-66, frosty luster.