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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;GDJMSP, post: 736526, member: 112&quot;]OK, on the obv, look at LIBERTY, see the dark gunk stuck in the recesses of the letters, B, E and R in particular. See the dark coloration around the stars and date. But none of it is visible anywhere else on the coin - that&#039;s because it has bene cleaned off. And harshly cleaned off. Look at all the lines and fine scratches on the left side of the coin starting between the date and the star and moving upwards. They are just easier to see in this area because of the light is catching them. But all of those little fine shiny spots you see all over the coin are more of the same. It&#039;s just that from that angle the pic is only catching portions of them in the light.</p><p><br /></p><p>Same basic thing on the rev. Look at the legends and the shield - dark gunk stuck in the recesses again. All the little fine shiny spots all over. If you turned it in the light you&#039;d see fine scratches all over it.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Absolutely. Any TPG would.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Yes, but harsh or improper cleaning is never acceptable. Harsh or improper cleaning may be defined as any cleaning that leaves tell-tale traces of that cleaning on the coin.</p><p><br /></p><p>About the only cleaning that can be done that is acceptable is cleaning done with a chemical. It&#039;s commonly called dipping. But even that can be over-done or done improperly and then it is not acceptable any longer either.</p><p><br /></p><p>Learning to recognize harsh or improper cleaning is one the harder things there is to learn about coins, especially with gold coins. This one that you pictured is rather easy actually, one of the easiest even because it was done by somebody with&nbsp; no knowledge.</p><p><br /></p><p>One of two reasons why it was porobably done - </p><p><br /></p><p>1 - a novice was trying to make his coin look better. This is actually probably the single most common reason there is.</p><p><br /></p><p>2 - somebody was trying to improve a coin that they knew was only worth bullion content so they could sell it to somebody else that would not know what they were buying.</p><p><br /></p><p>As to the grade of the coin, I&#039;d say it has VF details. The rev is better than the obv but a coin is always graded by its worst side.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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