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<p>[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 3504631, member: 112"]Yeah, it does that on broadstrikes - but only on broadstrikes.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>You do understand how a collar works don't you ? The collar fits tight, against the rim of the planchet before the coin is struck. That prohibits metal from flowing outwards. So the direction of the forces is completely changed when a collar is in place - that's why the collar is there ! That's even why the close collar was even invented ! It forces the metal that is away from the upset portion of the planchet to move inwards instead of outwards because it's stopped cold from moving outwards before it ever begins to move.</p><p><br /></p><p>As for this - </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Yes, the majority of the metal that fills the devices comes from the interior of the planchet. But make no mistake, all the metal on the surface of the planchet is moving too - <b>every bit of it !</b> It is that metal flow that creates the luster on the coin. If ALL the metal did not flow - there would be no luster ! And - it is also that metal on the surface flowing that creates the die wear lines. If all that metal didn't flow, there wouldn't be any die wear lines either. So what you're saying about the only place significant metal on the surface moves is near the device edges - that simply isn't true. And for that matter, metal even moves, flows across the surface of the devices themselves. </p><p><br /></p><p>Now you can continue to disagree all you want as I cannot "make" you believe anything. You will only believe what you want to believe - unless and until you open your mind and think for a minute. That's all it takes - an open mind. For once anyone stops and thinks about all this - what is all too obvious becomes so easily seen.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 3504631, member: 112"]Yeah, it does that on broadstrikes - but only on broadstrikes. You do understand how a collar works don't you ? The collar fits tight, against the rim of the planchet before the coin is struck. That prohibits metal from flowing outwards. So the direction of the forces is completely changed when a collar is in place - that's why the collar is there ! That's even why the close collar was even invented ! It forces the metal that is away from the upset portion of the planchet to move inwards instead of outwards because it's stopped cold from moving outwards before it ever begins to move. As for this - Yes, the majority of the metal that fills the devices comes from the interior of the planchet. But make no mistake, all the metal on the surface of the planchet is moving too - [B]every bit of it ![/B] It is that metal flow that creates the luster on the coin. If ALL the metal did not flow - there would be no luster ! And - it is also that metal on the surface flowing that creates the die wear lines. If all that metal didn't flow, there wouldn't be any die wear lines either. So what you're saying about the only place significant metal on the surface moves is near the device edges - that simply isn't true. And for that matter, metal even moves, flows across the surface of the devices themselves. Now you can continue to disagree all you want as I cannot "make" you believe anything. You will only believe what you want to believe - unless and until you open your mind and think for a minute. That's all it takes - an open mind. For once anyone stops and thinks about all this - what is all too obvious becomes so easily seen.[/QUOTE]
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