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<p>[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 3502711, member: 112"]All one has to do is ask yourself a simple question ? Where does the majority of a the metal on a coin end up ? Answer, it ends up in the central device, typically a bust, because it is, by far, the largest device on the coin. And it cannot be formed unless the majority of the metal flows there.</p><p><br /></p><p>All by itself, that tells you that the majority of the metal on a coin flows inwards, towards the center, not outwards towards the rim. </p><p><br /></p><p>The vast majority of the metal found in the rim is already there. It is put there by the upset mill. And it is put there because the mint knows, and knows for a fact, that if they don't put it there in advance, pre-strike, that the metal will NOT flow there in sufficient quantity to form the rim because almost all of it is flowing inwards - not outwards. </p><p><br /></p><p>And none of this has anything to do with early die state or late die state. The metal flows in the same direction regardless of how old or new the die is. </p><p><br /></p><p>And the tiny bit of metal for the legends, it comes from the recesses inside the letters and numerals, and the areas immediately adjoining the letters and numerals. To put it another way, if metal is more than a fraction of a millimeter away from the letter or numeral - it's flowing inwards towards the center of the coin. The "flow ambiguity" as you called it, this is the only place where it exist - in that fraction of a millimeter.</p><p><br /></p><p>You used a Jefferson nickel as an example. OK, let's use one.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]928247[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>To put it as simply as I can put it, if the metal of the planchet is inside the legends, (meaning towards the center), then when struck that metal is moving towards the center of the coin. And even parts of the metal in the spaces in between the words, even that is flowing towards the center. All one has to do is look at the coin to see that.</p><p><br /></p><p>And the die wear lines that one often sees near the legends, those lines are not created because the metal is flowing outwards towards the rims, they are created because it is flowing inwards towards the center.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 3502711, member: 112"]All one has to do is ask yourself a simple question ? Where does the majority of a the metal on a coin end up ? Answer, it ends up in the central device, typically a bust, because it is, by far, the largest device on the coin. And it cannot be formed unless the majority of the metal flows there. All by itself, that tells you that the majority of the metal on a coin flows inwards, towards the center, not outwards towards the rim. The vast majority of the metal found in the rim is already there. It is put there by the upset mill. And it is put there because the mint knows, and knows for a fact, that if they don't put it there in advance, pre-strike, that the metal will NOT flow there in sufficient quantity to form the rim because almost all of it is flowing inwards - not outwards. And none of this has anything to do with early die state or late die state. The metal flows in the same direction regardless of how old or new the die is. And the tiny bit of metal for the legends, it comes from the recesses inside the letters and numerals, and the areas immediately adjoining the letters and numerals. To put it another way, if metal is more than a fraction of a millimeter away from the letter or numeral - it's flowing inwards towards the center of the coin. The "flow ambiguity" as you called it, this is the only place where it exist - in that fraction of a millimeter. You used a Jefferson nickel as an example. OK, let's use one. [ATTACH=full]928247[/ATTACH] To put it as simply as I can put it, if the metal of the planchet is inside the legends, (meaning towards the center), then when struck that metal is moving towards the center of the coin. And even parts of the metal in the spaces in between the words, even that is flowing towards the center. All one has to do is look at the coin to see that. And the die wear lines that one often sees near the legends, those lines are not created because the metal is flowing outwards towards the rims, they are created because it is flowing inwards towards the center.[/QUOTE]
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