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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;GDJMSP, post: 2858145, member: 112&quot;]No, you need to redefine your definition of luster. Every single coin struck with dies has luster when it leaves the dies, every single one. And that even includes die cap errors where the coin struck subsequently to the die cap never even touches the die.</p><p><br /></p><p>And yes, Proof coins absolutely have luster. Is it just like what you are referring to as cartwheel luster commonly seen on business strikes ? No, it is a different kind of luster, but yes it most definitely will still cartwheel around the coin when the coin is rolled under a light. As a matter of fact, all different types of coins, and not just the different denominations but the different types of the same denomination, have a different kind of luster than the others do. </p><p><br /></p><p>And yeah, people questioned and doubted that too when I fist explained it many years ago. But then another member took the trouble to photograph different types of coins under high magnification and actually show people that each coins has its own unique kind of luster. In those photographs you can actually see the individual flow lines that cause the luster, as well as the wear lines caused by repeated metal flow that disrupt and lessen the luster. </p><p><br /></p><p>As I said, luster is a physically measurable quantity. It is not a matter of opinion, but a matter of objective fact. Using high quality light meters you can actually measure the amount of luster a coin has. And coins struck with fresh dies always have more luster than their counterparts struck once those dies become worn. </p><p><br /></p><p>So your questions now become if what you say is true then why does it appear that some MDS and LDS coins have more luster than EDS coins struck with the same dies ? There&#039;s a very easy answer for that, because there is no accounting for the EDS coins quite possibly having been dipped, and perhaps more than once, as 80% or more of all older coins have been. So if the MDS or LDS coin was not dipped and the EDS coin was, then yes it is possible for them to look like they have more luster.</p><p><br /></p><p>But when all things are equal, and none of the coins have ever been dipped then EDS coins will have more luster than later die state coins every single time for all of the reasons I have already explained.</p><p><br /></p><p>But you go right on believing you want because no amount of me talking is ever going to change your mind unless and until you are willing to listen and actually think about it. Only then can you and will you realize that what I am saying is true.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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