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<p>[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 2857996, member: 112"]No they aren't. And it's basically just common sense. Luster on a coin is created by metal flow. And it is visible because of two things, reflection and refraction. And the very quality of reflection and refraction, and thus the quality of the luster on a coin is determined by consistency, not inconsistency. In other words the more consistent the lines created by metal flow are, the higher the luster will be. And quality of luster, or the amount of reflection if you prefer, is physically measurable.</p><p><br /></p><p>Now if you consider what happens to a coin die after use it becomes blatantly obvious that the flow lines become more and more inconsistent with each repeated use of the dies. This is due to the metal flow. When a coin is struck its metal literally flows across the surface of the die. This metal on metal contact causes wear to the die resulting in deeper and deeper and wider and wider wear lines across the surface of the die. Thus the more wear there is on the die the less consistent the flow lines on the resulting coin will be. And the less consistency you have the less luster you have.</p><p><br /></p><p>These things are obvious, it is what happens and that cannot be denied. And it is quite easy to see for oneself merely by looking at the coins. Proof coins are a perfect example of this. Proof coins have the highest amount of luster of all coins because they have the greatest reflectivity. This is beyond dispute. But the more Proof dies are used the less the amount of reflectivity becomes, which is why Proof dies are pulled and re-polished or replaced after limited use because the quality of the coins suffers due to die wear. And rather obviously if the quality of the coin suffers then the luster suffers as well.</p><p><br /></p><p>The very same thing happens to business strike coins, the more wear a die has the less luster the resulting coins struck with that die will have. </p><p><br /></p><p>Bottom line, coins struck with fresh dies always have higher luster, a better quality of luster, than coins struck with worn dies. And by definition MDS and LDS dies are worn. The more wear, the less luster.</p><p><br /></p><p>As I said it's common sense. How can a late die state, a very worn die by definition, possibly create a coin that is anywhere near the quality of the coins struck with fresh dies. Answer, they cannot.</p><p><br /></p><p>Now I know that a lot of people think that what you think is true, but they are the ones who are mistaken.</p><p><br /></p><p>If you wish to see it for yourself in another way, look in a mirror sometime. The quality of the image you see in the mirror is due to the high quality of luster of the silver backing on the mirror. Take a piece of steel wool and rub across the back of that mirror, thus creating wear on the back of that mirror. And the image you will see then becomes distorted, of a much lower quality. This too is undeniable. And it is the very same thing that happens to coins struck with worn dies.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 2857996, member: 112"]No they aren't. And it's basically just common sense. Luster on a coin is created by metal flow. And it is visible because of two things, reflection and refraction. And the very quality of reflection and refraction, and thus the quality of the luster on a coin is determined by consistency, not inconsistency. In other words the more consistent the lines created by metal flow are, the higher the luster will be. And quality of luster, or the amount of reflection if you prefer, is physically measurable. Now if you consider what happens to a coin die after use it becomes blatantly obvious that the flow lines become more and more inconsistent with each repeated use of the dies. This is due to the metal flow. When a coin is struck its metal literally flows across the surface of the die. This metal on metal contact causes wear to the die resulting in deeper and deeper and wider and wider wear lines across the surface of the die. Thus the more wear there is on the die the less consistent the flow lines on the resulting coin will be. And the less consistency you have the less luster you have. These things are obvious, it is what happens and that cannot be denied. And it is quite easy to see for oneself merely by looking at the coins. Proof coins are a perfect example of this. Proof coins have the highest amount of luster of all coins because they have the greatest reflectivity. This is beyond dispute. But the more Proof dies are used the less the amount of reflectivity becomes, which is why Proof dies are pulled and re-polished or replaced after limited use because the quality of the coins suffers due to die wear. And rather obviously if the quality of the coin suffers then the luster suffers as well. The very same thing happens to business strike coins, the more wear a die has the less luster the resulting coins struck with that die will have. Bottom line, coins struck with fresh dies always have higher luster, a better quality of luster, than coins struck with worn dies. And by definition MDS and LDS dies are worn. The more wear, the less luster. As I said it's common sense. How can a late die state, a very worn die by definition, possibly create a coin that is anywhere near the quality of the coins struck with fresh dies. Answer, they cannot. Now I know that a lot of people think that what you think is true, but they are the ones who are mistaken. If you wish to see it for yourself in another way, look in a mirror sometime. The quality of the image you see in the mirror is due to the high quality of luster of the silver backing on the mirror. Take a piece of steel wool and rub across the back of that mirror, thus creating wear on the back of that mirror. And the image you will see then becomes distorted, of a much lower quality. This too is undeniable. And it is the very same thing that happens to coins struck with worn dies.[/QUOTE]
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