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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;GDJMSP, post: 2857896, member: 112&quot;]That&#039;s debatable. I say that because there are two terms that apply here, Mint State and as struck. And there is a difference between &quot;as struck&quot; and &quot;Mint State&quot;. Yes, at the moment that every coins leaves the dies it is &quot;as struck&quot;. But that does not necessarily mean that it is &quot;Mint State&quot;. </p><p><br /></p><p>Mint State has another connotation that is part of its definition, that being that the coin is as it was intended to be by the mint. And that is not to say that it has to be perfect, merely that it has to be as it was intended to be.</p><p><br /></p><p>For example, mint errors, and or damage incurred during striking. If either of these two things occurs and the mint sees them or catches them if you will, the coin is pulled, rejected and thrown in the scrap heap - by the mint. This is done because the coin is not acceptable, it is not Mint State. </p><p><br /></p><p>So, if the mint itself is telling you that a coin is not acceptable, not Mint State, don&#039;t you think you should listen to them ? They are after all the ones making the coins.</p><p><br /></p><p>Now I&#039;ll grant you the TPGs have changed this, they are the ones who call error coins and coins damaged during strike MS. And they do this merely because that is what their customers wanted them to do. Their customers, some of them anyway, want to be able to point to the items in their collections and say - here look at this it&#039;s MS ! And that makes it better than that one over there.</p><p><br /></p><p>But the mint, the mint pulls them out and throws them in the trash. Because in the eyes of the mint, and more collectors that one might give credit for, they are not Mint State. They are however as struck.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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