Log in or Sign up
Coin Talk
Home
Forums
>
Coin Forums
>
US Coins Forum
>
How will PCGS grade this one.
>
Reply to Thread
Message:
<p>[QUOTE="bahabully, post: 823689, member: 17555"]Here are the results of the PCGS grading survey.</p><p> </p><p>First some notable non-participants. Sometimes it's best to maintain you aura of expertise by sitting in the dugout.</p><p>Penny lady</p><p>Penny guy</p><p>Dutchman</p><p>.... too much downside to speaking up and being wrong I guess. I'd be quite too if I was a dealer instead of a dumb ol' collector.</p><p> </p><p>On to the rankings of those who stepped up and took a turn at the plate. Congratulations to all of you who chose to speak up and give it a shot. </p><p>I will list the rankings from worst to best.</p><p> </p><p>17 folks put in opinions.</p><p>Only 6 of those offered up opinions on all 4 coins listed in the two threads.. so i'll list these 6 within thier own group. I'd describe these folks as willing to offer opinions and help collectors freely and openly with no hesitation... all good guys imo.</p><p>Now lets beat them down abit <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie2" alt=";)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p> </p><p>PCGS grades:</p><p>1909s vdb > came back VF20</p><p>1913 > came back BB, questionable color.... dang that was a pretty blue too.</p><p>1931D > the first one listed was MS63</p><p>1931D > came back MS64 BN.... somewhat under what I thought, guessing LDS too off some points.</p><p> </p><p>6 - <span style="color: Red">edited</span> BORGAVAN - averaged 8.75 points off of PCGS grades.</p><p>09s vdb - 8 pts off</p><p>13 - 10 pts off, didn't call the BB</p><p>31d - 8 pts off </p><p>31d - 9 pts off </p><p>POOR PCGS grader.</p><p> </p><p>5 - MIKE NOODLE - averaged 8.25 points off of the PCGS grades.</p><p>09s vdb - 5 pts off</p><p>13 - 10 pts off, didn't call the BB</p><p>31d - 8 pts off</p><p>31d - 10 pts off, called a MS64 a BB</p><p>POOR PCGS grader</p><p> </p><p>4 - MARK H - averaged 7.5 pts off PCGS grades</p><p>09s vdb - 5 pts off</p><p>13 - 10 pts off, didn't call the BB</p><p>31d - 5 pts off</p><p>31d - 10 pts off, called the MS64 a BB</p><p>POOR PCGS grader</p><p> </p><p>3 - GDJMSP - averaged 6.25 points off PCGS grades</p><p>09s vdb - 10 pts off, called VF20 a BB</p><p>13 - 0 pts off</p><p>31d - 5 pts off </p><p>31d - 10 pts off, called a MS64 a BB</p><p>POOR PCGS grader</p><p> </p><p>Now we're up to what I'd call the best 2 of the 17. They both replied to all queries regarding a PCGS grade, and they both came back with reliable and close approximations as to what PCGS would grade these cents based on pictures within the threads... these guys I'd listen too folks,,, at least when it comes to what a cent will grade at PCGS, these two appear to be the best.......</p><p> </p><p>2 - RLM's CENT - averaged 3.75 points off PCGS grades. I guess the name says it all, this guy knows cents, and shares knowledge readily. </p><p>09s vdb - 5 pts off</p><p>13 - 10 pts off, called a BB a MS64.... can't really blame him, I'd have said same. </p><p>31d - 0 pts off, nailed the MS63</p><p>31d - 0 pts off, nailed the MS64</p><p>SOLID PCGS grader</p><p> </p><p>#1 - DUKE KAVANGH - averaged 2.5 points off PCGS grades. Outstanding DUKE !</p><p>09s vdb - 0 pts off, nailed the VF20</p><p>13 - 10 pts off, called a BB a MS... again, can't blame him on this coin. tough call.</p><p>31D - 1 pt off</p><p>31D - 0 pts off, nailed the MS64</p><p>OUTSTANDING PCGS grader</p><p> </p><p>Again, thank all of the above 6 forum members,, each readily provided thier opinion regarding a query for estimated PCGS grade, and each provided an opinion for each coin listed. Good guys, all of em'.</p><p> </p><p>Now on to the 11 members who chose to answer only a subset of the 4 coins listed.... or offered off hand comments and a thrown in grade here and there. Good stuff, but less reliable sources for grade estimations within this forum. </p><p>From worst to best in this class:</p><p> </p><p>11 - SHOEWRECKY <span style="color: red">edited</span> - averaged 10 points off PCGS grade </p><p>09s vdb - 10 pts off, called a VF20 a BB</p><p> </p><p>10 - COPPERWIRED - really honest grades IMO, but the numbers put you in the cellar</p><p>09s vdb - 8 pts off</p><p>13 - 10 pts off, called a BB a MS63</p><p>31D - 5 pts off</p><p> </p><p>9 - ABE - averaged 7.5pts off PCGS grades</p><p>09s vdb - 5 pts off</p><p>13 - 10 pts off, called a BB a MS64</p><p> </p><p>8 - BG COINS - averaged 5 pts off PCGS grades</p><p>09s vdb - 0 pts off, nailed the VF20</p><p>13 - 10 pts off, called a BB a MS64</p><p> </p><p>7 - 2 CENT RICK - averaged 5 pts off PCGS grades</p><p>09s vdb - 10 pts off, called a VF20 a BB</p><p>13 - 0 pts off, nailed the BB</p><p> </p><p>6 - WASHQUARTJESSIE - averaged 4.5 pts off PCGS grades</p><p>31D - 8 pts off</p><p>31d - 1 pt off</p><p> </p><p>5 - BADTHAD - averaged 4 pts off PCGS grades</p><p>31d - 0 pts off, nailed the MS64</p><p>31d - 8 pts off</p><p> </p><p>4 - COINKEEPER - averaged 1 pt off PCGS grades</p><p>31d - 1 pt off</p><p> </p><p>1 - DESERTGEM - 0 pts off pcgs grades</p><p>09s vdb - nailed it</p><p> - LDHAIR - 0 pts off pcgs grades</p><p>31d - nailed it</p><p>31d - nailed it</p><p> - MPCUSA - 0 pts off pcgs grades</p><p>13 - called the BB</p><p> </p><p>THERE YOU HAVE IT FOLKS,,, SOMETHING TO CONSIDER WHEN YOU GET OPINIONS BACK REGARDING HOW A COIN WILL POTENTIALLY GRADE AT PCGS...... Based on this little experiment I'll be paying particular attention to what the following folks have to say :</p><p> </p><p>*** DUKE KAVANGH & RLM'S CENT ***</p><p> </p><p>The rest,,, we'll I'd be happy to buy em' a beer and BS with them all day,,, but wouldn't bank too much if the topic ran across PCGS grades for any pocket coins that hit the bar table.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="bahabully, post: 823689, member: 17555"]Here are the results of the PCGS grading survey. First some notable non-participants. Sometimes it's best to maintain you aura of expertise by sitting in the dugout. Penny lady Penny guy Dutchman .... too much downside to speaking up and being wrong I guess. I'd be quite too if I was a dealer instead of a dumb ol' collector. On to the rankings of those who stepped up and took a turn at the plate. Congratulations to all of you who chose to speak up and give it a shot. I will list the rankings from worst to best. 17 folks put in opinions. Only 6 of those offered up opinions on all 4 coins listed in the two threads.. so i'll list these 6 within thier own group. I'd describe these folks as willing to offer opinions and help collectors freely and openly with no hesitation... all good guys imo. Now lets beat them down abit ;) PCGS grades: 1909s vdb > came back VF20 1913 > came back BB, questionable color.... dang that was a pretty blue too. 1931D > the first one listed was MS63 1931D > came back MS64 BN.... somewhat under what I thought, guessing LDS too off some points. 6 - [COLOR="Red"]edited[/COLOR] BORGAVAN - averaged 8.75 points off of PCGS grades. 09s vdb - 8 pts off 13 - 10 pts off, didn't call the BB 31d - 8 pts off 31d - 9 pts off POOR PCGS grader. 5 - MIKE NOODLE - averaged 8.25 points off of the PCGS grades. 09s vdb - 5 pts off 13 - 10 pts off, didn't call the BB 31d - 8 pts off 31d - 10 pts off, called a MS64 a BB POOR PCGS grader 4 - MARK H - averaged 7.5 pts off PCGS grades 09s vdb - 5 pts off 13 - 10 pts off, didn't call the BB 31d - 5 pts off 31d - 10 pts off, called the MS64 a BB POOR PCGS grader 3 - GDJMSP - averaged 6.25 points off PCGS grades 09s vdb - 10 pts off, called VF20 a BB 13 - 0 pts off 31d - 5 pts off 31d - 10 pts off, called a MS64 a BB POOR PCGS grader Now we're up to what I'd call the best 2 of the 17. They both replied to all queries regarding a PCGS grade, and they both came back with reliable and close approximations as to what PCGS would grade these cents based on pictures within the threads... these guys I'd listen too folks,,, at least when it comes to what a cent will grade at PCGS, these two appear to be the best....... 2 - RLM's CENT - averaged 3.75 points off PCGS grades. I guess the name says it all, this guy knows cents, and shares knowledge readily. 09s vdb - 5 pts off 13 - 10 pts off, called a BB a MS64.... can't really blame him, I'd have said same. 31d - 0 pts off, nailed the MS63 31d - 0 pts off, nailed the MS64 SOLID PCGS grader #1 - DUKE KAVANGH - averaged 2.5 points off PCGS grades. Outstanding DUKE ! 09s vdb - 0 pts off, nailed the VF20 13 - 10 pts off, called a BB a MS... again, can't blame him on this coin. tough call. 31D - 1 pt off 31D - 0 pts off, nailed the MS64 OUTSTANDING PCGS grader Again, thank all of the above 6 forum members,, each readily provided thier opinion regarding a query for estimated PCGS grade, and each provided an opinion for each coin listed. Good guys, all of em'. Now on to the 11 members who chose to answer only a subset of the 4 coins listed.... or offered off hand comments and a thrown in grade here and there. Good stuff, but less reliable sources for grade estimations within this forum. From worst to best in this class: 11 - SHOEWRECKY [COLOR="red"]edited[/COLOR] - averaged 10 points off PCGS grade 09s vdb - 10 pts off, called a VF20 a BB 10 - COPPERWIRED - really honest grades IMO, but the numbers put you in the cellar 09s vdb - 8 pts off 13 - 10 pts off, called a BB a MS63 31D - 5 pts off 9 - ABE - averaged 7.5pts off PCGS grades 09s vdb - 5 pts off 13 - 10 pts off, called a BB a MS64 8 - BG COINS - averaged 5 pts off PCGS grades 09s vdb - 0 pts off, nailed the VF20 13 - 10 pts off, called a BB a MS64 7 - 2 CENT RICK - averaged 5 pts off PCGS grades 09s vdb - 10 pts off, called a VF20 a BB 13 - 0 pts off, nailed the BB 6 - WASHQUARTJESSIE - averaged 4.5 pts off PCGS grades 31D - 8 pts off 31d - 1 pt off 5 - BADTHAD - averaged 4 pts off PCGS grades 31d - 0 pts off, nailed the MS64 31d - 8 pts off 4 - COINKEEPER - averaged 1 pt off PCGS grades 31d - 1 pt off 1 - DESERTGEM - 0 pts off pcgs grades 09s vdb - nailed it - LDHAIR - 0 pts off pcgs grades 31d - nailed it 31d - nailed it - MPCUSA - 0 pts off pcgs grades 13 - called the BB THERE YOU HAVE IT FOLKS,,, SOMETHING TO CONSIDER WHEN YOU GET OPINIONS BACK REGARDING HOW A COIN WILL POTENTIALLY GRADE AT PCGS...... Based on this little experiment I'll be paying particular attention to what the following folks have to say : *** DUKE KAVANGH & RLM'S CENT *** The rest,,, we'll I'd be happy to buy em' a beer and BS with them all day,,, but wouldn't bank too much if the topic ran across PCGS grades for any pocket coins that hit the bar table.[/QUOTE]
Your name or email address:
Do you already have an account?
No, create an account now.
Yes, my password is:
Forgot your password?
Stay logged in
Coin Talk
Home
Forums
>
Coin Forums
>
US Coins Forum
>
How will PCGS grade this one.
>
Home
Home
Quick Links
Search Forums
Recent Activity
Recent Posts
Forums
Forums
Quick Links
Search Forums
Recent Posts
Competitions
Competitions
Quick Links
Competition Index
Rules, Terms & Conditions
Gallery
Gallery
Quick Links
Search Media
New Media
Showcase
Showcase
Quick Links
Search Items
Most Active Members
New Items
Directory
Directory
Quick Links
Directory Home
New Listings
Members
Members
Quick Links
Notable Members
Current Visitors
Recent Activity
New Profile Posts
Sponsors
Menu
Search
Search titles only
Posted by Member:
Separate names with a comma.
Newer Than:
Search this thread only
Search this forum only
Display results as threads
Useful Searches
Recent Posts
More...
